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hal
4th Mar 2005, 09:20 AM
It's time once again for a brand new NaliCity Hotlist and Featured Map. The map in the spotlight this time around is Hourences spectacular DM-Redkin. The Hotlist is all UT2004 and includes a map pack of 9 classic Unreal Tournament levels:

DM-Redkin
DM-Imber
UT Classics2k4
DM-TensileSteel

Check out the reviews for yourself, and leave an intelligent comment!

A Jailbreak fan
4th Mar 2005, 11:30 AM
I've lost all respect for Hourences after he ranted like that, besides redkin is nothing special gameplay wise

NeoNite
4th Mar 2005, 11:41 AM
All respect? He's not some kind of robot, is he?
Ok, he shouldn't have done it but.. on the other hand it's quite understandable.. everybody has a certain point you can't take any **** anymore.

Kantham
4th Mar 2005, 12:04 PM
What the ............

Hourences has ranted , For good reason , but there is no way that sommeone should losse his respect , he didn't even flamed sommeone , he just weted the palet of the numberous n000000000bz that complained about the window and the low performance.

Redkin is a pure master piece with lots of stuff , this map breathe.

hal
4th Mar 2005, 12:51 PM
What the ............

Hourences has ranted , For good reason , but there is no way that sommeone should losse his respect , he didn't even flamed sommeone , he just weted the palet of the numberous n000000000bz that complained about the window and the low performance.

Redkin is a pure master piece with lots of stuff , this map breathe.

I dunno. I can see both sides.

But honestly, some of the comments that were made about the map were a little un-insightful (is that a word?). I think a lot of people just didn't get it. They were expecting Rankin 2.

Map detail is going to continue to evolve and I think that its unreasonable to expect that they aren't going to be more demanding of your computer. Hourences even mentioned in the READ ME how to boost performance. That HAS to be frustrating. Everyone thinks he or she knows how to do it better... well where is it?

I don't think any good mapper wants to avoid criticism, but at least make it intelligent. :)

AMmayhem
4th Mar 2005, 03:39 PM
Well there are more maps out there than just Redkin. If you don't like it, move on, stop obsessing over Hourences' reaction. I think Marilyn Manson is a freak, but I still like his music. But that also doesn't mean I have to listen to only his stuff.

Leave your comments of any maps, and don't flame in the process. It'll make everyone happier.

Bot_40
4th Mar 2005, 08:05 PM
OK, not going to write an essay on this stuff, quite frankly I can't be arsed to get into a flamewar but basically, yes I feel hour over-reacted quite a lot by posting that news comment (i advised him not to but he didn't listen to me :p). However it wasn't without reason, the bottom line imo is that a lot of people simply either don't listen, or they don't know what they are on about, and that's frustrating when you spend 5-6 months carefully crafting a complete work of art only to have people post comments about it which are completely untrue.

Not naming any names, but I've heard of complaints about low fps (when it's stated several times over that turning world detail to low will give a massive fps boost), lighting looking washed out (errr, ever played stock maps such as CTF-Grassyknoll?) and even multiple complaints about needing to download hour's indusX texture package which isn't even required :con:
The list goes on.

Basically, I don't believe the way hour reacted to all this was the correct way to go about things, but you gotta understand, when you spend so damn long on a map...hundreds of hours of personal time just to give something to the community... and people then go and post comments about your map which are completely untrue...that's pretty damn frustrating.

A Jailbreak fan
4th Mar 2005, 08:32 PM
if i spend 5 months making textures in ms paint that simply look like crap, even though i tried really hard to make them ok looking textures and when i release this texture pack everyone goes: you suck111!!!1, omg bad noob quality lolol1!!!

does it matter how much time i spent on it? no, because it sucks.... dont pull the 5 months stuff man because you can't make honey out of dog ****

hal
4th Mar 2005, 09:09 PM
Wow, I don't know what measuring stick you're using, but I think a lot of people would really disagree with you. That's okay... it's your opinion. I don't think you really backed it up, but whatever.

Manticore
4th Mar 2005, 09:24 PM
Leave your comments of any maps, and don't flame in the process. It'll make everyone happier.
...but we all know that there is a general culture of flaming previous commentors because their opinions differ. And not just at NC.

Everyone would be happier, I agree, but it just doesn't work that way. Some people are just too damn ignorant to live and let live.

I can understand why people get upset (including Hourences) with the whole deal. Everybody's crap-o-meter has a redline....

fuegerstef
5th Mar 2005, 04:28 AM
if i spend 5 months making textures in ms paint that simply look like crap, even though i tried really hard to make them ok looking textures and when i release this texture pack everyone goes: you suck111!!!1, omg bad noob quality lolol1!!!

does it matter how much time i spent on it? no, because it sucks.... dont pull the 5 months stuff man because you can't make honey out of dog ****

Uh oh, intelligence* has really gone down the drain here... ...besides, the "facts" you stated above are plain wrong.


*) this is the ability to to recognize how things really connect to each orther and then form a LOGICAL solution/summary from that.

PsychoMoggieBagpuss
5th Mar 2005, 05:21 AM
if i spend 5 months making textures in ms paint that simply look like crap, even though i tried really hard to make them ok looking textures and when i release this texture pack everyone goes: you suck111!!!1, omg bad noob quality lolol1!!!

does it matter how much time i spent on it? no, because it sucks.... dont pull the 5 months stuff man because you can't make honey out of dog ****

Kantham, your english is really, really poor.

Myself being from Canada I'm wondering if you're an immigrant or you are a 3rd grade student.

Look what is says under Kantham

"VCTF Masterfull"?

LoL wtf?

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showpost.php?p=1755810&postcount=8

Pot, Kettle, Black.

BTW, do you have any released maps we can compare to Hourences?

NeoNite
5th Mar 2005, 06:14 AM
if i spend 5 months making textures in ms paint that simply look like crap, even though i tried really hard to make them ok looking textures and when i release this texture pack everyone goes: you suck111!!!1, omg bad noob quality lolol1!!!

does it matter how much time i spent on it? no, because it sucks.... dont pull the 5 months stuff man because you can't make honey out of dog bottomcake

Troll, be gone.

A Jailbreak fan
5th Mar 2005, 09:41 AM
The moral of the story boys is, if you didn't get it.

No matter how hard you work on something and you DO NOT have the concept right and all you know how to make are good textures and the map flow suck. the map sucks.

End of discussion

NeoNite
5th Mar 2005, 10:23 AM
The moral of the story boys is, if you didn't get it.

No matter how hard you work on something and you DO NOT have the concept right and all you know how to make are good textures and the map flow suck. the map sucks.

End of discussion

Be gone, troll.

fuegerstef
5th Mar 2005, 10:28 AM
Be gone, troll.

what he/she said...

Kantham
5th Mar 2005, 11:45 AM
The moral of the story boys is, if you didn't get it.

No matter how hard you work on something and you DO NOT have the concept right and all you know how to make are good textures and the map flow suck. the map sucks.

End of discussion

Maybe you have other things to do apart flaming (http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showpost.php?p=1755810&postcount=8) on this forums .........

Also a post (http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showpost.php?p=1756107&postcount=12) that he replyed to PMB that make no sense at all. My view still stands because your english is very bad for however old you are but i dont blame you because you are better than me in that sense but i can speak turkish so.

A Jailbreak fan
5th Mar 2005, 02:38 PM
the reason you don't understand me is because you don't have a big enough of vocab to understand me.

checked your gay site. pathetic. maybe get your english teacher to give you a grammar check on the site.

kthxsbye, another reason why i hate (french) canadians

Kantham
5th Mar 2005, 02:39 PM
checked your gay site. pathetic. maybe get your english teacher to give you a grammar check on the site.

kthxsbye, another reason why i hate (french) canadians

There is many French canadian on this forums that want to share their opinion with you

http://www.ropma.com/images/ban_him.jpg

hal
5th Mar 2005, 02:56 PM
This shouldn't be getting personal.

A Jailbreak fan
5th Mar 2005, 04:44 PM
you spelled pack-man wrong,

its pac-man

Kantham
5th Mar 2005, 05:10 PM
How old are you man?

CyberSirius
5th Mar 2005, 05:43 PM
EDIT: thank you for removing the pictures :D

oh dear
5th Mar 2005, 05:46 PM
save me from the scary people jesus.

Kaithofis
5th Mar 2005, 06:17 PM
This thread should be classic'd.
Also, I vote for who-ever (Jailbreak fan according to the rumours) posted this all for forumer of the month!

A Jailbreak fan
5th Mar 2005, 07:05 PM
huh?

Kantham
5th Mar 2005, 07:17 PM
huh?

AKA asssssssssss juice etc ..........

JonAzz
6th Mar 2005, 11:33 AM
I am so lost... but ok yay for... something :rolleyes:

Kantham
6th Mar 2005, 11:52 AM
I am so lost... but ok yay for... something :rolleyes:

A jailbreak fan was also known as Gun Hero . He mostly posted on JB forums , just then , he decided to start posting on mapping forum , he started to blame the way i talk in english (on my DM-CAWAN thread) , and talked about useless stuff all the time , he said ****s about hourences , and ppl really treated him like a troll. After a while , PMB (i guess so) puted him on read only . the little kid got pissed of and posted around 5000 porn pics on this thread As a guest user . And on another one (shiel gun mappack releassed thread). Now he got banned for all this stuff , and will not make anymore **** around .

EDIT:Oh well , Now he's back with the name Gun hero01 just back to continue his little routine like posting on my thread , and doing **** around , ihe also added me on msn for somme gentle trash talkin (if you know what i mean) with a friend of him . Anyway . Want a hint? never show your msn adress on the forums , it help you breathing away from kids , flaming kids.....

JonAzz
6th Mar 2005, 01:15 PM
ooo I remember that now... sorry forgot what I was doing for a second there. yeah I was gonna reply to his post in your DM-CAWAN thread but decided not to :P

anyway back on topic :P

Gunhero01
7th Mar 2005, 07:42 PM
wasn't me, check the ips. I have no idea who that guy is

Kantham
7th Mar 2005, 08:45 PM
wasn't me, check the ips. I have no idea who that guy is

You doubt PMB now?

hal
7th Mar 2005, 09:11 PM
wasn't me, check the ips. I have no idea who that guy is

All of those IP addresses are simple to resolve. All of them but this one (mysteriously :rolleyes: ) resolve in Canadian domains. Most ISP abuse departments are very cooperative in investigating reports of users violating their user agreements.

Go away and don't come back. This applies to all of your accounts.

the real guy
8th Mar 2005, 12:58 AM
ok, but you can't get rid of me. i'll be here in some shape or form.

so you can **** off for banning me for no reason, you dont have solid proof.

go suck a dildo u faggot

hal
8th Mar 2005, 01:08 AM
Yeah, we do have proof.

PsychoMoggieBagpuss
8th Mar 2005, 01:42 AM
lmao, doesn't he realise that everytime he posts that we record the time of post and IP address. That include all posts made in the past with the "a jailbreak fan" and "gunhero" accounts.
And doesn't he realise that ISP's actually act on this evidence?

His ISP is telus. It's based in Canada. We have all necessary records, ip addresses, etc since you first registered and a copy of their Terms of Use which you have been breaking.
Have fun finding another ISP, or explaining to Daddy why you've got him kicked off the internet.

Kantham
8th Mar 2005, 01:53 AM
His ISP is telus. It's based in Canada. We have all necessary records and a copy of their Terms of Use which you have been breaking.
Have fun finding another ISP, or explaining to Daddy why you've got him kicked off the internet.
Now that's good news!:D:tup:

Good job PMB , i can't belive it!

Abdulrezzak
8th Mar 2005, 11:46 AM
ok, this is enough.

i don't know who this fellow is but hes not breaking any laws. its your job to keep him off this forum. his isp cannot deny him service for posting stuff in these forums. Not abiding by your rules does not that he will get his connection unhooked.

Abdulrezzak
8th Mar 2005, 11:58 AM
on another note. his isp doesn't give two hoots about him posting bs on his forum.

they are busier on trying to catch haxx0rz to acually abuse the internet. not some kids trying to toy with you. which they do very well obviously as you can't get rid of them.

something as petty as this won't even be looked at.

Kantham
8th Mar 2005, 12:37 PM
ok, this is enough.

i don't know who this fellow is but hes not breaking any laws. its your job to keep him off this forum. his isp cannot deny him service for posting stuff in these forums. Not abiding by your rules does not that he will get his connection unhooked.

I bet you are one of teh other guy that posted all the porn pics on this thread.

PsychoMoggieBagpuss
8th Mar 2005, 01:01 PM
on another note. his isp doesn't give two hoots about him posting bs on his forum.

they are busier on trying to catch haxx0rz to acually abuse the internet. not some kids trying to toy with you. which they do very well obviously as you can't get rid of them.

something as petty as this won't even be looked at.

Actually we have done this in the past before where people don't seem to get the hint. Each time we have sent a letter to an ISP it has resulted in the offender having their account cancelled.
It is not just the fact that they are breaking our Terms of Use, they are also breaking their ISP's Acceptable Use Policy (http://www.mytelus.com/internet/nv/aup.do).

I belive the appropriate part is as follows

While using the Communication Services, the Customer is prohibited from engaging in or assisting others to engage in any activity that, in TELUS' sole judgment,1) violates applicable policies, rules or guidelines of TELUS or other on-line service providers, (2) disrupts or threatens the integrity, operation or security of any Communication Service or any computer or Internet system, (3) elicits complaints from other Internet users or Internet service providers, (4) is contrary to any law or regulation, or (5) is otherwise objectionable.


When you point that out to an ISP they will cancel the users account.

I highly suggest that you dig out your own ISP's terms of use and have a read, as you're about to have your account cancelled Abdulrezzak, or should I say Gunhero/A Jailbreak Fan (great little things IP addresses, as I said earlier we keep a record of your IP with EVERY single post you make. Also when we delete posts for inappropriate content they aren't actually deleted, just removed from the general populaces view).

So thats Telus and Shawcable the the letters need to go to (feel sorry if you're posting from a friends pc, they're about to get their account cancelled as well). I'll email them sometime later this week, have rather more important things to do at the moment than get some kid kicked off the internet.

Here, you've won an award.

http://home.btconnect.com/b.t.j.k/BU/Ban/MajAwardSmall.jpg
Good luck explaining that to Daddy.

NeoNite
8th Mar 2005, 04:58 PM
ok, this is enough.



Oh yes, please _ what's the point, what's the point.

*sigh*

:O)

AMmayhem
13th Mar 2005, 07:34 PM
So, I have a question here. How is it that Nali City seems to bring out the trolls in the community? :con: ;)

Manticore
13th Mar 2005, 08:10 PM
Good question......... :tup:

Rukee
1st Apr 2005, 07:19 AM
our MODs are too easy. :o