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KoX
8th Feb 2005, 03:10 PM
hey,I've seen curvatores's site, and that he is selling UT skins ,and I thought,
that I could get in the bussiness myself :)
I want you to tell me do you think that I have enough skills to do this,and how do you rate my work,
and plz tell me what's the average price of a skin???
well thx in advance...

http://www.3division.co.sr

Sahkolihaa
8th Feb 2005, 04:29 PM
You shouldn't really sell skins, the software isn't for comercial use.

Or can it? Any one know?

Slaughter
8th Feb 2005, 06:49 PM
Not until you start making your own textures.

klasnic
8th Feb 2005, 11:30 PM
Even then I don't think you can unless it's on an original model... I don't think that'll last long though and it's a trend I don't like to see (came across it again recently). That sort of thing is very anti-community imo... It's one thing to ask ppl to 'donate' for whatever reason but anything else is really unacceptable :mad:

KoX
9th Feb 2005, 03:19 AM
ok, then, I won't even try :)
just wanted to know :)

klasnic
9th Feb 2005, 05:04 AM
ok, then, I won't even try :)
just wanted to know :)

No reflection on you KoX or your talent but the thought of people charging for content which should be free really makes me mad. What would we do if every UT mod/model/patch/add-on/cbp had to be paid for - You wouldn't even know what you'd get 'til after you paid (no free samples and guaranteed no refunds)...

Take the mod/mapping/modelling community for example - lots of people from there have been hired by various game developers to make content for them - they get paid and get good jobs. That should be enough of an incentive.

I've recently tried to download a lot of Sims 2 content of late for a friend only to discover that many sites require you sign-up for a fee to be able to dl some are more blatant and require payment. Needless to say I was shocked and boy am I glad to be in a real community.

Let's keep it that way :2thumb:

***Klasnic goes off to rant some more***

[EDIT] If I did requests and charged for doing them I'd be a rich man by now!

SaD
9th Feb 2005, 12:57 PM
....
What would we do if every UT mod/model/patch/add-on/cbp had to be paid for - You wouldn't even know what you'd get 'til after you paid (no free samples and guaranteed no refunds)...

I donīt think anyone would download the "normally" for free content , if you have to pay for it.
I donīt like the idea.


[EDIT] If I did requests and charged for doing them I'd be a rich man by now!
:lol:

klasnic
9th Feb 2005, 01:43 PM
:lol:

:lol:

Nines
10th Feb 2005, 04:57 AM
You shouldn't have to pay for skins or models :mad: .
I mean, what good is it to waste money on a skin or model that may not even show online, unless the server has it!!

klasnic
10th Feb 2005, 07:55 AM
Paying for having someone do a custom made model for you - I don't have a problem with that as it could take months of work to make a decent model and these people should be paid if working to make one for someone as a request (Just to clarify). After all weren't many of the Xan models in 2k4 made by a guy contracted to make them for Epic ;)

Skinning is different and if people do them for free, why pay? Also look at the great modellers in our community like Slyrr, Hide, etc., etc., they're real community people doing stuff for everyone and sharing. I've little doubt the reward they get from community feedback, acknowledgment in the MSU and by game developers more than makes up for mere $

:)

KoX
10th Feb 2005, 08:37 AM
ok, I was talking about requests, so it's ok then...
I didn't express myself right,
But if the skins are supposed to be free, how come curvatores in selling them??

btw: I would newer sell a skin or model I have a idea for, even if I could,
I would only charge for requests!

I hope we understood each other :)

klasnic
10th Feb 2005, 08:55 AM
Yup Kox, understood I was just clarifying what I thought :)

-Tj-
20th Feb 2005, 10:03 PM
Selling skins sounds like a bad idea to me. If the trend catches on, we'll be having a lot less downloads available and a lot more people mad when they find out their pay-for-play skin/model is being downloaded for free on someone else's site.

I put a boatload of work into my skin and I wouldn't dare charge money for it. Two reasons behind this:
1: I download other people's works for free and I want people to download mine for free as well. It's a shared thing. You take, you give (if you can). Charging for it? It better be damned good, or a completely different game or something.
2: I make the skins for myself first, and if I like them it's all the sweeter if other people like them, too.

People who make this stuff in the industry do it for a living, and sometimes they don't even like what they're making. They're paid to do it, so they do it for the money. If they like what they're working on then it only makes their job better. Look at Counter Strike... Sure, you could pay for the retail version, but isn't it still available for free? I dunno. I could be wrong there, I don't play Half-Life games.

Anyway, that's my thought on the subject. I don't think people should charge for mods to a game.

CheapAlert
20th Feb 2005, 10:34 PM
Selling skins suck

Look at all those big Sim skin sites, they all require fricking subscriptiosn just for altered faces like "BEN AFFLECK!!1!" and half-assed skins and all no credit given to Maxis as they are altered off the originals.

klasnic
21st Feb 2005, 08:59 AM
Selling skins suck

Look at all those big Sim skin sites, they all require fricking subscriptiosn just for altered faces like "BEN AFFLECK!!1!" and half-assed skins and all no credit given to Maxis as they are altered off the originals.

Agreed CheapAlert, do you think they can legally do that? That was one thing I wondered when I saw them - It sucks big time :tdown:

KirinRiotCrash
21st Feb 2005, 11:17 AM
I really don't like the idea of selling skins in general because as many people know, you can download a bajillion kinds of skins for free. It reminds me of some sites that claim that the payments only pay for bandwidth usage but in reality, they spend that money on stuff like beer and porn.

On the flip side though, I like the idea of selling your skinning services ... say for example someone can pay you a lump sum to make a skin that looks like Mark Rein or whatever the customer wanted. :o

[LD]zachsurf1
21st Feb 2005, 03:32 PM
Selling skins sounds like a bad idea to me. If the trend catches on, we'll be having a lot less downloads available and a lot more people mad when they find out their pay-for-play skin/model is being downloaded for free on someone else's site.

I put a boatload of work into my skin and I wouldn't dare charge money for it. Two reasons behind this:
1: I download other people's works for free and I want people to download mine for free as well. It's a shared thing. You take, you give (if you can). Charging for it? It better be damned good, or a completely different game or something.
2: I make the skins for myself first, and if I like them it's all the sweeter if other people like them, too.

People who make this stuff in the industry do it for a living, and sometimes they don't even like what they're making. They're paid to do it, so they do it for the money. If they like what they're working on then it only makes their job better. Look at Counter Strike... Sure, you could pay for the retail version, but isn't it still available for free? I dunno. I could be wrong there, I don't play Half-Life games.

Anyway, that's my thought on the subject. I don't think people should charge for mods to a game.tj is right we makes skins and people download them for free it shoudl stay that way besides people who makes make them for people to enjoy not to make a profit