View Full Version : ZP & 413: s'okay

31st Mar 2000, 03:02 AM
Thanks for the info Jibe.

You mean to tell me that:

If a server is running ZP...
A client can enable/disable ZP for his client only?

So.. I could jump on a ZP server with some HPW's using ZP - but I could opt to NOT use it while they do. VERY interesting. This could be the answer a lot of people were looking for.

As well, the other fixes you mention:
The shots that appear to miss, but hit - I think this one disturbed me the most, but could never really put my finger on it
The shots appear to hit, but miss - another bugger
and spam removal...
All sound like top fixes to me! I look forward to trying it out!

Thanks again Jibe.

"I never learned from a man who agreed with me." ~ Robert A. Heinlein
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31st Mar 2000, 03:08 AM
Umm what about the one where someone could Disconnect their cable/lan connection casually walk around shooting people, reconnect and score kills?
Is that covered in the above??

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31st Mar 2000, 03:12 AM
"- Can't run around killing people while lagged"

Yup. Covered.

31st Mar 2000, 11:57 AM
The Zeroping Alpha seems to work fine with 413. If anyone finds an incompatibility, please email me.

Real life's jumped up in my face, and I'm not going to have any time to give to zp until Monday. I expect to release the Zeroping Beta in the middle of next week.

Here are the changes since the Zeroping Alpha release:

- Can't get hit AFTER ducking behind a corner
- Can't run around killing people while lagged
- Fixed shots that appear to miss you, but hurt
- Fixed shots that appear to hit, but don't hurt
- No longer possible to respawn dead
- Fixed Instagib rifle sometimes failing to fire
- Optimized net traffic to lower bandwidth use
- Encrypted net traffic to prevent proxy hacks
- Added player commands to enable/disable Zeroping
- Removed spam

I won't be around the forums until Monday night, so your best bet to reach me before then is email.


31st Mar 2000, 11:16 PM
Rooster, it sounds like you would be willing to try to play against a Hpw with zp on, while you have yours off! That is pretty sporting of you, because don't you think you would be under quite a disadvantage (compared to what you could have, at least). I realize that people get accustomed to the way they lead their shots, but, it is pretty easy to get accustomed to hitting what you aim at, too. /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

1st Apr 2000, 12:35 AM
I have a lot of fun with ZP. I'm an LPB but I've played as a HPB. Thanks Jibe! /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

BTW, do all mutators disable data to NgStats? I wouldn't know, I have stats off anyway... just curious /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

1st Apr 2000, 11:03 AM
Hu, yup, that's exactly what I'm saying.

As I regularly only ping around 150 or less to all the servers I play on - adjusting certain weapons for 150ms and not others really throws me off. I think I could do just fine without it.

I look forward to trying it out.

"I never learned from a man who agreed with me." ~ Robert A. Heinlein
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3rd Apr 2000, 05:53 PM
Jibe, what easy way is there going to be, to identify the zp servers if you don't do it the same way as with the alpha? Since UT doesn't have a good filter in the menu system, it is really nice to have it as part of the server name.

3rd Apr 2000, 08:52 PM
Sure, I average 150-200 ping and have been known to win playing the admin of a server. What's the diff? 150 ms is below the human response time anyway (eye to hand tho you can sense it). Playing against zero ping players isn't bad at all with 150. Get above the 250 ping level, well, that's another story.
I'd have to go along with Rooster on this one. No prob. /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

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3rd Apr 2000, 09:27 PM
Rooster: Dazright... You'll be able to disable zp on your own weapons only. Hardcore instagib players were complaining that zp was throwing off their timing, so I figured this would help.

Hu: I think I'm going to keep the "zp|" tag for the next release. Although a couple of server admins have complained about it, I bet I'd get a LOT more complaints if players who don't like zeroping felt they couldn't avoid it. I hope the beta will make everyone in the world happy... on the off chance that it doesn't, the "zp|" will prolly never go away. If the beta DOES please all, and 413's new filter thingy turns out to be useful, I may make the tag optional in a later release.

PotLuck: I think ngStats only counts a mutator as a "Mod" if it has a package that the player needs to download (like zp). I'm not positive though... anyone else know for sure?


3rd Apr 2000, 09:50 PM
Thanks, Jibe! /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif