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Cantar
13th Aug 2004, 07:11 AM
hay guys been working on this off and on in Upaint for last 3 weeks keep redoing colors trying to find some starting point realy anyways i could realy use the help of texture kings/queens and a shader of corse =)

the basic idea was to make her look smokie but able to use team colors thats of corse the blue team i also have a red and green vearsion

problem is i realy cant make her look smoky without the help of a shader and some textures on some of the colored parts might be cool but want to leave the gray and silver for a shader to make look smoky =/ but what ever

if anyone can help email me at Bruttal@TheWolfBrigade.com
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/222/222884/pages/566132/Smoke-Front.jpg

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/222/222884/pages/566132/Smoke-back.jpg

Cantar
13th Aug 2004, 07:13 AM
oh btw this is my first ever project =/

daloonie
13th Aug 2004, 08:43 AM
Hehe since it's your first project try to use Adobe Photoshop or Jasc Paint Shop Pro they are much easier to compile a skin for UT2kX with and have a load more options than Upaint.
If it should be looking smokey you should apply some shades for bumps and holes in the grey colors and make the grey colors in different tones to make it more rustic and smokey like, not just plain grey.

Darth_Chaos
13th Aug 2004, 01:21 PM
Looks cool, and this could be the first female cybernatic skin I like(aside from Klas). Oh and the atari boards have been owned. All your base belong to us.

Mr.Wigglez
13th Aug 2004, 07:35 PM
I cant tell what to say bout it. Cuz right now to early to tell what it will look like. hope it turns out good.

Cantar
13th Aug 2004, 11:29 PM
heres an update, just wish i knew how to make it all shine

http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/smoke.jpg

here's the texure i made for it (http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/textures.bmp)

klasnic
14th Aug 2004, 06:26 AM
I wouldn't make it shine quite yet, Cantar as it needs some detail first. Think about kinda flames going up the legs but rather than flames use smoke (a darker grey pattern moving up). The prob is you're using Upaint and you'd be better off taking the image you have now (right-click on body window in Upaint) and export as a bmp or something. Then open it in an image editing program and play around with it there. I don't really have a beginners guide but there are tutorials... I'll link all I can find in a separate thread here later as a guide :)

klasnic
14th Aug 2004, 06:29 AM
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=140632 There's a link in that thread for a shader tutorial (thanks OMF).

Cantar
14th Aug 2004, 12:14 PM
hay i created a flameish look am useing both upaint and a program vary close to what photoshop is (less gui) i actuly kinda like this 1 but dunno ill let you decide what ya think

http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/smoke1.jpg


***EDIT***

Oh yeah heres the Flame Texture i used all i done to it was resize and cut the black out of it, Oh and i turned it some so the flames go up and not around

http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/flames.jpg

klasnic
14th Aug 2004, 02:59 PM
Yup that's much better... Detail is still a prob though. The default model would have darker shades under areas that are sticking out (shadows) which would make it look more detailed. What prog u using? If it uses layers, put the default original skin as the base layer and the one you've done as a layer over it, then make it a little more opaque to allow some of the detail in the original to come through. Keep going though, it's good for a first attempt and it'll get better as you go along ;)

Cantar
14th Aug 2004, 08:10 PM
Yup that's much better... Detail is still a prob though. The default model would have darker shades under areas that are sticking out (shadows) which would make it look more detailed. What prog u using? If it uses layers, put the default original skin as the base layer and the one you've done as a layer over it, then make it a little more opaque to allow some of the detail in the original to come through. Keep going though, it's good for a first attempt and it'll get better as you go along ;)

Yes it has layers its PhotoStudio by Arcsoft i like it its n00b frindly =) came with my comp

Cantar
14th Aug 2004, 08:36 PM
new update!

i havent been working with the head any but i have my worked saved in pfd so i can pull out my layers and drop in the head latter just gotta keep geting help from klasnic

witch am so vary thankful for lemme know whatcha think of this
http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/smoke2.jpg

Mr.Wigglez
14th Aug 2004, 08:40 PM
you shoulda make the white (not the greay parts) shiny. and make the gray black. so the flames would be black, nad the otehr parts would be shiny white, that would look so sweet.

Cantar
14th Aug 2004, 09:40 PM
so the flames should be darker?

3rd update (only done the head from last update)
http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/smoke3.jpg

Cantar
14th Aug 2004, 10:47 PM
Dont think am done but heres a red vearsion just so i dont lose anything =)

http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/Smokered.jpg

**Edit** red vearsion is a lil light around the gray areas ill probly have to darkn that up some

Cantar
14th Aug 2004, 11:04 PM
here i made the red a bit darker ill work on the gray shade latter

http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/Darkerred.jpg

Cantar
14th Aug 2004, 11:31 PM
here i made a black one too

http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/smokeDefult.jpg

klasnic
15th Aug 2004, 03:51 AM
Very nice, now you're getting there - It's really starting to look well :tup: and tcs too yippee!

Cantar
15th Aug 2004, 04:04 AM
what should i do next to it?

klasnic
15th Aug 2004, 04:12 AM
Up to you man, I'd put a little shadow under the three folds between the thigh and knee so it looks broken up a bit. Stick to the theme though as it's good to know what you want to do when ya start. Post a pic of the behind view too :)

Cantar
15th Aug 2004, 04:26 AM
http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/Smokeblackback.jpg

what do you mean with the thighs? and how do i add shadows of my own? =/

Cantar
15th Aug 2004, 05:21 AM
well i exported the red vearsion to UT and uh well heres what it looks like

SmokeShot1 (http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/SmokeShot1.jpg)SmokeShot2 (http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/SmokeShot2.jpg)

As you can tell i gotta now go back and make it darker =(( both the flames and the gray =/ man this is gonna be fregin hard

Cantar
15th Aug 2004, 06:14 AM
ok i made the backdrop behind the flames a darker shade of gray almost black but indoing so i can now see too much of the flames so am gonna have to darken them up a bit
i exported to ut and it looks nice with the flame expection

http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/smokeblackbackdrop.jpg

Cantar
15th Aug 2004, 11:07 AM
ok last 1 am geting kinda tired of workin on this so this will probly be the last change i do from photostudio with the expecptions of readding TCs

Cantar
15th Aug 2004, 11:07 AM
ok last 1 am geting kinda tired of workin on this so this will probly be the last change i do from photostudio with the expecptions of readding TCs

http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/finshed.jpg

klasnic
15th Aug 2004, 11:36 AM
Woohoo! That looks nice now. In game I'd recommend that you see how the default skin looks on DM-1on1-Albatross and DM-Antalus (on a dark map try DM-DE-Grendelkeep). Then see how the TC versions look on CTF-Orbital2 or any other Epic ones. They just seem to have a good range of lighting (bright and dark). A lot of user made maps are not ideal for looking at them because they might give it a hue of some kind and they're not ideal. That's just a recommendation and it's something I've done from day one. Good job!

Cantar
15th Aug 2004, 09:48 PM
welp heres some in game screenshoots and this will be the vearsions i releace to skincity all i gotta do is import them to a single texture package insted of 3 differnt ones =)

ScreenShots (http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/ScreenShots.zip)

sampleshot for people who dont wish to download the screenshots

http://www.thewolfbrigade.com/cantar/sampleshot.jpg

Cantar
15th Aug 2004, 09:54 PM
Hay klasnic i just wanna Give you a Big THANK YOU with out your bit of help it still be 1 shade of gray =)

I just Sent in my skin to Skincity =)! hope it gets up there soon =)

klasnic
16th Aug 2004, 05:36 AM
You're welcome... It was worth it in the end and SaD's always on top of things so you won't be waiting long :D

PS you'll soon have me out of a job hehe

Cantar
16th Aug 2004, 06:03 AM
rofl hardly this one was so fregin hard for me but i learned soooo much! and thats why i wanted to do one. becouse the more 1 can learn the more i can put on my resume rofl j/k

although for my first ever skin i think it turned out alright

Mr.Wigglez
16th Aug 2004, 06:26 AM
yea ill download your skin test it out, it cant be to bad you got help from klasnic the best skinner i seen while in my time of being here(its not long but hey long enough :D ).

SaD
16th Aug 2004, 09:59 AM
I just Sent in my skin to Skincity =)! hope it gets up there soon =)

Got it :D .

Official Posting Date : 24. of August .

In the meantime : Smoke @ the Fileworks (http://www.beyondunreal.com/dl.php/skincity/ut2k4/smokeskin_ut2k4.zip)

Darth_Chaos
16th Aug 2004, 12:30 PM
d/ling, this should be good