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Postal
13th Jan 2004, 07:55 PM
Ive been talking about funding a little competition for coders. Winner selected by me, gets 50 dollers. Send you a money order, or gift card or something. Now I wont do this unless theres several people interested. I wont partipicate of course. Anyone got any good ideas for a competition either?

Now there would be some rules of course, all enties would be open sourced, and would become part of a WMP pack. The competition would probable last a month or 2, and would either be a weapon or a mutator. I got a couple of ideas, but I wanna see what you people think.

SamMaster
13th Jan 2004, 08:04 PM
...

that's as far as I know

Oh! And I might be interested

EvilDrWong
14th Jan 2004, 02:34 AM
a WMP weapons pack seems like a great idea! I especially like the idea that all entrants get put into the download. Gives everyone a chance to say "hey, someone downloaded something i made!"
IMO the playing field should be as level as possible, so my twitch reaction is to say only stock assets... but that might be a bit hasty... either way, custom models and skins shouldnt affect a weapons 'review.'

Since im such a great and awesome guy (modest too) i can more than likely scrape up another $25 to throw into the pot

ROFL 451
14th Jan 2004, 10:22 AM
a WMP weapons pack seems like a great idea! I especially like the idea that all entrants get put into the download. Gives everyone a chance to say "hey, someone downloaded something i made!"
IMO the playing field should be as level as possible, so my twitch reaction is to say only stock assets... but that might be a bit hasty... either way, custom models and skins shouldnt affect a weapons 'review.'

Since im such a great and awesome guy (modest too) i can more than likely scrape up another $25 to throw into the pot


I'll take Wong's $25 :lol:

Postal
14th Jan 2004, 03:36 PM
Doc, wanna make it a secondary prize, Grand is 50, second place is 25.

more to come

Postal
14th Jan 2004, 04:03 PM
How about this, a 2 seperate competitions. A weapons competition with a 25 doller grand prize, and a 10 doller runner up, and a mutator competition with a 25 doller grand prize, and a 10 doller runner up. All working entries go into a WMP Pack.

Voting would be on the WMP main page, and nothing would be released untill the final date, then the whole pack gets released, and the people vote, then we make the final decision.

Kangus
14th Jan 2004, 04:29 PM
You spell Dollar wrong again one more time and I'll smack you! :stick:

Postal
14th Jan 2004, 04:57 PM
Doller, doller, dollEr, dolleeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeer, dollEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEr! D! O! L! L! EEE! R!

1 Million Dollers! Dollers for all!

How this for rules:

1. The submited entry must be previously unreleased, and can not be a remake of a previous Unreal mod or mute. You can only send in 1 entry for Mutator, and 1 weapon, and you can only submit 1 verson of said weapon and/or mute.
2. Entry will be open sourced, and may be put in a WMP pack.
3. Entry must be under a meg in size.

Grading will consist of 2 parts.
Community Vote
OFF-Origionality, Function, Form

I grade weapons, Perhaps Doc Wong would be in ccharge of Mutes

25 dollA(happy now Kang?)r grand prize
and 10 dollar runner up

for a Mutator, and Weapon.

EvilDrWong
14th Jan 2004, 05:31 PM
1. The submited entry must be previously unreleased, and can not be a remake of a previous Unreal mod or mute.
By 'previously unreleased' do you mean that for example, Sammaster's pack cant be entered... Or that the only time it should be let out for public use is when judging is announced? If its the first, i completely agree. The weapon should be made specifically for the contest (or at least, it needs to be new work)
Though, i think that a remake of a mute NOT already in UT2003 should be fine (hell, theres not really much you can do without inadvertantly remaking an old mute ;) )
Under a meg in size... Would that mean that custom art assets will be acceptable as long as it comes in under the size restriction?

SamMaster
14th Jan 2004, 06:39 PM
I think it does mean that. All my weapons are over 5 megs because of the art.

Postal
14th Jan 2004, 07:46 PM
I would perfer each thing to be a new creation, not to be announced untill the pack is released. I thought about allowing previously released items, but if Sam or Smoke could take something they allready made and tweek it, whats to stop a major mod taking one of their weapons, and sending it in.

I dont mean to be choking strick with the remake thing. I mean what limits are there, if you think you can make a better MP5, I wont count that against all the other MP5's. But if you make an almost perfect copy of the U4e bubblegun? Work for Word, the MP5 would be more of a copy. Heh, how many railguns are almost exactly the same. You can make an allready tried and true idea, but expect to get counted off in the Origionalty idea.


Im still flexable, make youre argument now. I will try and up the ante.

My main concern is that we will only have a few contestents

SamMaster
14th Jan 2004, 09:15 PM
then when the contest starts, whore it out more then all the pimps found in all the rap video clips combined. There are bound to be a few interested.

Fallen Angel
15th Jan 2004, 10:20 AM
yea - should pimp it on BU and UT2003files, and PU etc.


but i must say that putting a size limit is abit ott - all them extra bits r good imo

EDIT: um - i forgot what i was gonna say now...

EDIT: EDIT: I think it was something about - originalty = go0od?

Donator
15th Jan 2004, 11:25 AM
You think that's a good idea with people all working towards MSUC?

Postal
15th Jan 2004, 11:42 AM
someone working on MSUC could easly take a week and throw together a simple weapon or mute. Complex need not mean good.

The actuall contest timeline would probable only be a month(so if/when we do this, You dont have the time to make a whole new game in 1 package.

Im starting to dislike the idea of making 2 seperate parts of a competition.

Perhaps just Best Mute, winner gets 50, runner up, 25?

EvilDrWong
15th Jan 2004, 03:59 PM
A weapon competition IMO, is a better way go to. MSUC is already covering the Mutator base, but they dont have a category for weapons :) Granted, the 50 dollar prize for a good weapon in our contest comes nowhere near the 5k and a free computer prize from the MSUC... But the idea here is more of a friendly competition. None of this 'U STOEL MY SMESHES UR MOD SUX' type of cut throat competition involved with MSUC. In the end, everyones a winner, all the <weapons/mutators> are put into a single pack, so its not like one person is going to get more 'coverage' than anyone else :)

Donator
15th Jan 2004, 04:27 PM
granted. I like the idea of a weapon competition. I'd even limit the entrants to a SINGLE weapon, which should simplify the judging process a lot. What about making it a themed competition, to make sure people have to create a completely new thing, and also to have a more consistent weapon pack in the end? like all energy or all fire based guns, surreal weapons, close combat, bullet using weapons, devices that make use of explosives somehow, for example...

Postal
15th Jan 2004, 04:49 PM
Yes, its only a single weapon per person.

surreal weapons would require models, and close combat would proable result in a ton of light sabers/ swords. The user should be able to make what ever he wants. A grappeling hook that can skewer, or a full auto grenade launcher.

Allright, if 13 people tell me they will enter this, and actually make something. I will release the revised guidelines, and starting pimping it, and set a finish date.

I ment all along for the competition to be for a SINGLE weapon. That way, with 10 or more entries, we get a whole weapons pack. Make sence? I never wanted a whole mod, I wanted something that someone should be able to reasonable make in a week, and get as good as possible. An ending date would probable be around the end of Febuary.

SamMaster
15th Jan 2004, 07:58 PM
yep

Donator
16th Jan 2004, 02:23 AM
Count me in

ROFL 451
16th Jan 2004, 08:30 PM
I understand that you have a small limit on how much nagging you can take Wong. I will try and be more police in the future.

EvilDrWong
16th Jan 2004, 08:33 PM
Lets try and at least stick to the topic, please? This is halfway serious and itd be nice if we could keep it that way.

Postal
16th Jan 2004, 10:52 PM
Revised Rules

1. Only 1 weapon may be submited by person or group. Only 1 verson will be accepted. If several submissions are sent in, only the first will be used. The entry must be previously unreleased.

2. The weapon will be open sourced, and will be sent in with decompiled source, and a working copy. The weapon submited (with in reason) will be put in a WMP pack, and released after the deadline date.

3. Entrys must be under a meg in size compiled and running(we want to keep the size of the WMP pack 56k friendly, come on, you dont need a whole meg for 1 weapon)

Once the Pack is released, the community gets 2 weeks to vote, then I make the final decision based on the community vote(I will go with it, unless theres some major flaw with the entry). Winner recieves a 50 doller gift card, runner up, 25 doller(From Dr. Wong)

That will be the finaly copy, unless one of you can provide a better suggestion.

Drop Dead date would be the last day of Febuary.

SamMaster
16th Jan 2004, 11:26 PM
I still don't like that 1 meg thing, but its your money. All else looks good :)

Postal
17th Jan 2004, 12:12 AM
if FR08 can fit in 64k, you can deal with 1 meg.

Now the last question then, is this an individual contest, or a team contest. For instance, could Sonic code a weapon, and MaxSmokes model it. Or does the whole weapon have to be made by a single person. Oh course, theres no way to prove this, it would just be a rule? Team or Individual effort.

Fallen Angel
17th Jan 2004, 07:13 AM
Team Equals Good + Sticky Keys R On :|

Donator
22nd Jan 2004, 03:49 PM
So I hope the contest hasn't died yet, now that I'm about to get this pretty Disruptor prototype working... :)

Postal
22nd Jan 2004, 07:11 PM
It's go.