Voice comms thread at Atari Forums

missPoopShoot · Sep 22, 2003

Finally a good thread at the Atari forums :lol:

Here is a thread in which the community and programmers at Epic actually come up with something good!

Hightlights

Features should include

Mute players options (menu tbc)
Disable voice comms (to save 56kers bandwidth. yay!)
Both "push to talk" and "voice activated" comms.
Codec - hardcoded to using a special version of the Speex codec at 4.8kbps

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Should make FragBU even more interesting with built in voice comms

When I get my ADSL i shall definitely be purchasing a mic

Hope you TeamSpeak freaks appreciate the info

I_LoveToKill · Sep 22, 2003

"Codec - hardcoded to using a special version of the Speex codec at 4.8kbps"

Well unless they have done something realy amazing to it
that means I wont be leaving teamspeak, that's lower than
the celp codex and that sounds realy horrible :tdown:

TWD · Sep 22, 2003

Sorry but if they're using 4.8 I'm sticking with teamspeak. Anything short of 12-16kbit is unbearable, and I think that if you don't have enough bandwith for the 16.4 codec then you won't have enough for voice chat at all to begin with.

spineblaZe · Sep 22, 2003

Agreed TWD. I guess I will have to reserve judgement until I actually use it though. For now Teamspeak is teh roXor.

If I did actually use it I really like the ability to mute people within the game. Of course, playing mostly DM, I probably wouldn't want to listen to anyone. All I would hear is people call me a n00b spammer.

Ruprecht · Sep 22, 2003

Don't like hearing the truth eh spiney?

missPoopShoot · Sep 22, 2003

I_LoveToKill said:
"Codec - hardcoded to using a special version of the Speex codec at 4.8kbps"

Well unless they have done something realy amazing to it
that means I wont be leaving teamspeak, that's lower than
the celp codex and that sounds realy horrible :tdown:

I thought this number sounded really low but then I have no experience with comms systems. Maybe they improved the compression enough to make 4.8kbps acceptable. Similar to what they did with .ogg after .mp3

Let's hope so eh? The blocking feature sounds rather nice...

edhe · Sep 22, 2003

Teamspeak is fairly old, but i'm not that impressed with a sub 5k 'clarity'.

Oh yeah.. and are they even considering offering a headset/earpiece with the game?

missPoopShoot · Sep 22, 2003

From www.speex.org

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Speex 1.1 Released
September 18, 2003
This is an unstable release. It brings many new features, some of which are still experimental. The new features are:

a denoiser that removes most of the background noise and can be used before encoding (available as --denoise in speexenc)

automatic gain control (AGC), which adjusts the volume to a constant level (available as --agc in speexenc)

echo cancellation (experimental, only available from libspeex)

A jitter buffer which handles packet buffering for VoIP applications (experimental, only available from libspeex)

an improved narrowband mode at 4.8 kbps (nonstandard mode, only availablefrom libspeex for applications that don't require compatibility with other software)
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Looks like this 4.8kbps tech is improved. Whether it'll be good enough for you 16kbps wh0res who knows :lol:

And edhe, was this a joke?

"Oh yeah.. and are they even considering offering a headset/earpiece with the game?"

You tight fisted Scotsman!

Ruprecht · Sep 22, 2003

Maybe before everybody starts bitching about clarity or kbps and whatnot, they should actually test it. Oh wait, I guess that won't happen until the demo eh. How about we reserve judgement until then.

Sir_Brizz · Sep 22, 2003

Two Weeks!

missPoopShoot · Sep 22, 2003

If anyone's interested I found this on the speex site

http://www.speex.org/audio/samples/

Just a few examples of the codec at various bitrates and has the original for comapison. The 4kbps is not actually that bad although the guy sounds like a gimp! And what has that woman been smoking? What is she on about? :lol:

Selerox · Sep 22, 2003

Only time will tell...

I'll give it a try first, if it's any good, then cool

If not, then TS2 it stays.

TWD · Sep 22, 2003

All my questions have been answered

After listening to the sample that the dev posted for me it's just as good if not better than the 16.4 codec that we've been using. Plus we do have a version of voice activation which is a little different. This will definatly rule. Those CS n00bs will be sooooo jealous.

SlayerDragon · Sep 22, 2003

So basically what you're telling me is that I should go get a mic headset?

Sir_Brizz · Sep 22, 2003

get a USB set, hopefully they will let us set our outputs to seperate them from our speakers.

Prophetus · Sep 22, 2003

Well, I actually used the voice comm in UT2004 and it wasn't bad at all. I've used Team Speak and other voice programs and the UT2004 version didn't have any static and the sound quality was on par with Team Speak's at high settings.

However, this was in a LAN and, as I stated before, I can't say how well the voice feature will work over the internet. But if people are concerned about sound quality, well...stop dissing because it is good.

Sir_Brizz · Sep 23, 2003

lol I ain't dissing. I personally think in game static would be better than out-games ok sound.

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