SPAM SPAM SPAM I can't stand it anymore

First I'd like to point out that many claim the LG is spammy.

Next I'd like to know what your reasoning behind the comment that lockdown should be in the game.

Third: play CTF with 100% friendly fire. The real spam disappears because it hurts your teammates.

AMEN!!! :tup: I am sick of complainers, whiners and @ssholes. I totally hear ya Peregrine. OMG LAME BS SPAM LAG NOOB

I have no idea why some people insist on saying that every time they get killed. I have just stopped playing with people like that. I also have a bind that says "Stop complaining or stop playing." Plain and simple, but it usually shuts people up.

All I can say is find some people that play what you like and take over the pubs. I play DM A LOT, and usually try find servers w/ people I know that are cool.

I agree with you, Pere.
What UT2003 has done to the community is to create a lot of whiners.

But I don't listen to whiners anymore. People who whines have problems and should do something else with their life.
Life is to short & fun for sitting on a server and complain about other.

For that, young padowan (SP?) Peregrine, you shall have not one, but two thumbs up

:tup: :tup:

And a smiley as well since I'm feeling generous



Agree totally, we get enough spam in our email inbox every day without it appearing in our games as well.

That's an ok idea brizz. Maybe you could change the two fire modes so one does damage but no lockdown and the other does lockdown but not very much damage just screws the player up and maybe even pushes them.

Here is my theory on why people whine about spam, and why the game is dead and why there is no community anymore:

Pub scene sucks cause for the most part because it rewards spam. Lets take CTF for an example, most pub CTF games revolve around the following theme. 5v5 or 6v6, at least one if not both teams usually have 5 guys playing def, usually all with flak or mini, with some exceptions. They build up adrenaline...and then voila, one of teh defenders makes a speed run, sometimes successful, sometimes not. Meanwhile, those chasing down their flag get into the enemy base and are greeted by the rest of the massive def spamming flak and mini at whoever goes thru teh entrance. This is exchanged back and forth, usually one team dominating the other. So, most people who like a good competitive game think this blows, and leaves, only to find it on the only other 2 normal weapon servers out there. They then maybe try another game type of just say screw it and leave and play another game. But hey, the new guys to the game are having a blast can they can sit in the back of tehir base with 4 or 5 others and just spam some flak, mini, or rockets in some random entrance along with everyone else and odds are good they'll get some frags.

So yeah, I think that when a player gets shredded for the 20th time by yet another flak/mini/rocket user from the enemy team, he/she probably gets frustrated and annoyed with it.

Now, I'm not saying that those weapons require no skill or are just pure spam. When dueling with another person they can all be used tactically and with purpose. Props to those that will set you up with say an expected combo in one direction then alt flak yeah when you switch directions. But when you go into a flag room and see 3-4 guys sitting there with all spam weapons, it becomes a question of whats the point. Sure, some will say you need to bring more offense, so you have most of your team leave your base, and duke it out with the def, but guess what, they all respawn right by there and while you are killing they are coming back fresh with flak cannons and other such weapons.

Regardless if my opinion is right or not, the numbers don't lie. The pub scene is horrid, hardly any servers and rarely do people hang around for an entire game. So new people checking out the game experience teh above, have about as much fun as watching their cats shed, and then go play ET or some other such game. Thus the game is dead. And probably also why no one really seems to care about 2k4 coming out soon. I remember all the hype and discussions going on in all the various ut forums about 2k3. Look around now about 2k4, you're lucky if you see a couple active threads, if even that, on unreal forums.

So yeah, there are a lot of whiners, probably cause people are frustrated that the game they enjoy playing just isn't fun online anymore and so they get vocal about it.

Well, your experience is just the opposite of mine then. Its rare for me to see 2 teams both going all offense. That would be more fun in my opinion than most of what I see.

I've been playing the game long enough to distinguish between respawns and full time defenders

Watch the birdy...

I have to say I agree with Peregrine on this one.

**Flak monkey*

I'm so sorry that some maps are really well suited for the flak cannon and thus, i own you puny whiners
sorry
it wasnt on purpose
i was born this way

Just want to clarify that I myself am not complaining about spam, and I rarely say anything at all, good or bad, in pub games. I'm just saying the game is dead, and based on my experience in pubs, people are more frustrated about this game for a variety of reasons and thus tend to whine more about various issues, whether it is spam, those "crazy" jump tricks, or those "cheating" fast weapon switchers, or even the "aimbot" hitscanners. Cause guess what, no matter what your playing style, people will bitch about it if they can't handle it.

Altho I do find it ironic that a thread stating how tired of whining some people are is just filled with people whining about being called spammers. I've never been called a spammer, but it sounds like a lot of you get called that on a regular basis. So obviously your playing style annoys the hell out of some people. Take satisfaction in that your technique causes some people problems in game instead of complaining just like they do.

LOL

Well, while fast weapon switching may not bother you, there are plenty of other people that bitch about it, just like spam or anything else

if you hate fast weapon switch, go play star trek elite forces 2. and shut up.

Most people that don't like fast weapon switching are still playing UT99 actually. And I have no problem with it, just using it as an example.