How big is too big?

you'll probably run into serious BSP hole/HOM probs with a main subtract that big, and your terrain will likely start to vanish at about 65536 units from the view point. this based on my experience with a map contained within a 65536 square area. your mileage may vary.

if at all possible, do NOT use a map size that big. it would take more than an hour to go flag to flag without jump pads or something. if u put jump pads, they would have to shoot u so high, fast, and far, that the game would most likely crash, if not look like total crap while you are in mid air. 4096 is in itself a pretty large size. I believe the width of the flagroom on chrome is 2048. multiply this by some insane number and you will get 524,288. no offense, but why do u want to make a map so huge? it would have serious performance problems, it would be unplayable game-wise (why do u want to make it impossible to play on purpose???), and i do not see any redeeming qualities with using such a large map size.

-a cube of 65536 is perfectly possible when combined with a terrain actor,i even made 160 000+ areas, just as long as you dont touch the floor by walking on it, stay on the terrain
-you cant get homs like that, you can only see the maximum view distance in action, after which everything clips out and becomes black/hom, so make sure your fog is thick enough to not look this far, and make a skybox+fogring
-it will run absolutely fine, but the more trees you add, the slower ofcourse, but the basic terrain, effects, and details will run absolutely fine
i made a forest once,350000 poly, 700 trees,grass, large terrain,2 suns, etc, horrible long rebuild, but still kinda playable in game,tho dont expect a lot with so many trees
-you do NOT want zoning in such large area,it wont optimise anything, on the contrary even, you only want to make some hills and mountains around,and place anti portals in them
-where to use such map? onslaught
you could make an ons map before ut2004 is even out

Distance fog he means.

i mean the mesh ring that sinside the skybox, thats made out of a solid color that fade out towards the top
this way your distance fog will nicely blend over into the fog ring in the skybox, so you wont see where the terrain clips away and the skybox begins
make sure the fog and the ring are the exact same color
you can first put the color on the fogringtex in photoshop, and in ued you can use the colorpicker from the fog settings to take over the exact color from the ring

technically bCleartofog (or something) should also be true(zoneinfo settings prolly), but im still figuring out why the hell they want that to be true since i dont see a lot of changes when its true

and about the trees, its prolly not the polycount which would kill your pc first, its more likely that all the alpha surfaces will
the tree leaves and grass are translucent in a way, which is extra heavy for the pc
you could try to convert all alpha tex to masked tex,they are slightly faster
that might help a little, but dont expect miracle, and on some pcs the alpha complexity crap mode seems to have less influence then on others, no idea why

skyline meshes
and the texture you got to make yourself in photoshop + alpha layer prefferably, or you could just make a solid color 64*64 res texture, and then make a shader, and put another fogring tex as opacity map so it uses that alpha map
in case you dont know how to make your own alpha maps

PhrozeN said:

do you think if I somehow divivded it into several zones that might work? I wonder if its actually possible to do somehow, I mean though some weird way.

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antiportals mate

can I ask what the point in making such a large size map is? Personally I think it's a waste of time, ecspecially if you are making it to be played on multiplayer.. Again, I don't think that the engine will allow a map that big to be played without having errors or even crashing.

-UT2004 Onslaught mapping
-It will run 100 % fine

lol.. use the loaded and allammo commands and just start launchin them into the sky everywhere and sit and watch the fireworks