Computer Problems/Upgrades/Info

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

I thought it might be a good idea to have a thread that we could post computer problems, information, and time required for fixes, etc...

Let me start this one by saying that I will be upgrading my current comp, and rebuilding my old one today.

I'm not sure exactly how long this will take, but I assume that it will last at least 4 hours (or more).

This also means that I will have to reinstall UT, maps, skins, etc...

However, I am currently making backups of that data, so no fear of losing it. :D

I'll be back as soon as possible.

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Errr...
After spending the last 3 hours waiting for a DVD to burn, I've decided to put off working on my own comp until my vacation... 9 days of workless bliss... at the begining of next month.

However, I do have the other computer to work on, off and on tonight, which means that I will have to pull the extra HDD out of this comp and put it in my old one... which means that I'll STILL have to reinstall UT2...

...sigh...

it's gonna be one of those nights...

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Oki... I keep getting this error when I try to run the updated UEd:

The procedure entry point ?qRandSeed@@3KA could not be located in the dynamic link library Core.dll.

I know we mentioned this in a thread before... but I do not recall the solution.

Help me out! Woo!


UPDATE:

I had to reinstall, and now all is well... I think...

[TAZTG]

Upgrading can be such Joy.. Yea right..
Sounds like you have the wrong version of the Core.dll file. Is there a new and mproved one out there?? BC or AX would be the man to ask that question...

[Iceburgs]

The only problem I am currently having is this: occasionally, when I log off a user, my computer flat-out hangs. I can't figure out why. It isn't accessing the HD. It isn't doing anything ... it's just waiting. This drives me insane. So far, the only thing I can think of is that it is from the printer software I installed when I (finally) got a printer (Lexmark). Anyone else have trouble like this?

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Looks like I'll be upgrading to cable this coming week... and you know what that means...
PING!

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

The only problem I am currently having is this: occasionally, when I log off a user, my computer flat-out hangs. I can't figure out why. It isn't accessing the HD. It isn't doing anything ... it's just waiting. This drives me insane. So far, the only thing I can think of is that it is from the printer software I installed when I (finally) got a printer (Lexmark). Anyone else have trouble like this?

Windows has problems like this fairly often... my suggestion to you is to create a new admin account or recreate the account that is having the trouble.
I don't know why exactly, but this seems to solve the problem in most cases.

[TAZTG]

The only problem I am currently having is this: occasionally, when I log off a user, my computer flat-out hangs. I can't figure out why. It isn't accessing the HD. It isn't doing anything ... it's just waiting. This drives me insane. So far, the only thing I can think of is that it is from the printer software I installed when I (finally) got a printer (Lexmark). Anyone else have trouble like this?

Here's what you can do ICE. Go to User Accounts in the Control Panel.
Delete all accounts except yours. Then don't log off just shut down. If you need to have more then one User Account try to create a new one for them after you have setup the printer. Its worth a try..

[Iceburgs]

Buggy windows. What a pain in the arse. You know, something weird happened late last night. I deleted 2.5 gigs from my recycle bin, and in my computer, it showed I had 2.5 more gig available on my hard drive. Now here's where it gets weird. After adding a shortcut to my desktop and moving some around, one of my icons moved to an empty space that I don't remember emptying. Anyway, I put it back, then went back to double-click on my computer. Lo and behold, I had 5 more gigs of free space. How the hell this happened, I don't know. I like having the space, though. So far I can't find anything missing that should be there, so beats the hell outta me what was wrong. I haven't tried sleeping my computer yet, but I wonder if whatever was causing windows to misreport my HD size was also causing the hanging. We'll see. Laterz!

[Shattered_Steel]

Ice obviously doesn't realize how Windows likes to "hold on" to things, even if you don't want them. Windows likes to make its own little copies of everything, especially if you delete them. So just letting stuff sit in your recycle bin doesn't actually delete anything, as well as the fact that sometimes even after emptying the recycle bin, Windows sometimes doesn't bother actually deleting the links to the files until some odd time afterwards (for most of us that occasionally shut down our computers, that's the time).

So, Ice, if this happened right after you emptied your recycle bin, don't be surprised, and also, it has nothing to do with your hang ups. I also have a Lexmark printer, and I have also noticed those "hangs" when logging off a user, but only after I used the printer. Since the printer came with software that automatically turns on the printer whenever you send something to the spooler, it also obviously has something running in memory waiting to see that happen. Afterwards, it probably has some sort of bad code that doesn't allow it to shut down normally, which means when you log off a user, Windows can't figure out a way to turn it off, and your comp hangs. I forget whether this works or not, Ice, but try simply turning off your printer before logging off Windows.

PS - Lurk is right about this, though, Windows has these "hang ups" often. Example - I can never shut down Windows with my ICQ software open. I always have to turn off the software first if I don't want the comp to hang while shutting down.

[TAZTG]

Here's a new one for ya. WAB Notification was stopping my system from shutting down. I kept getting the END Program now box when I was shutting down. I did the research and found out what App. was causing this. Outlook was the problem. I did my Office Upgrade and still had the problem and then I did a little testing. When I clicked the X to close Outlook it would still be running in the Processe's (Alt.-Ctrl-Del). When I CLicked File-Exit it wouldn't be running and Windows would shut down fine. ANother shining example of an XP Quirk.. LOL

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

http://www.lockergnome.com/issues/daily/20030901.html

Dev and anyone who is interested in where I get my "spiffy" programs, tweaks and such for Windows... this link will take you to the main site, and I would suggest you sign up for the Lockergnome Windows Daily newsletter.

[Devastator]

Thx Lurk, I'll be sure to take a look into it.

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

More links for you guys to check out:

Need a boot disk? (http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm)
How about some cable/dsl tweaks and tests? (http://www.dslreports.com)
Transform your comp into the ultimate gaming machine? (http://www.blackviper.com/)

Hope those help you guys out. ;)

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Hey guys, you need to watch out for an email from MS offering a new patch as an attachment;

Virus Spreading Easily

http://news.com.com/2100-7349_3-5078696.html

A new virus going by the name Swen and Gibe.F is making its way through email clients at a brisk pace that highlights the depth of security issues in Windows. Not to belabor the point, but this is such a perfect example, I couldn't let it slip by without at least a little attention. New security flaws are not where the big damage occurs. It's the old ones that have had patches available for a significant period of time that often bite hardest. Swen and Gibe.F illustrates just how serious the lack of applied patches on the part of end users truly is. A two year old IE flaw is the target of this latest bug, and it's spreading at a pace that rivals most other email worms. Contributing to the spread is the fact that the worm appears to come from Microsoft sporting a security patch, prompting unaware users to launch the virus-laden payload. Issuing effective patches quickly means very little. The number of flaws must subside significantly in order for any real impact to be seen down the road.

[Bonecrusher]

Lately everyone has been finding out that I have been having problems with my internet connection when playing UT...which is one of the reasons I did not participate in the scrim.

Here is something...not sure if I would consider it to be good news...but there is still hope that things will clear up for me. Here's what I got out of Comcast...

--------------------

Dear Mr. Reifsneider,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding the Comcast High-Speed Internet. We
understand this browsing issue can be frustrating. We apologize for any
inconvenience this may cause you and we will do our best to assist you
with this issue.

At this point there are still reported power outages in certain areas of
PA affecting servers which would cause this connection and browsing
issue. Comcast is working to restoring the service. We do apoligize
for the inconvenience and appreciate your paitentience.

Due to our Systems being upgraded I am not able to provide you with a
ticket at this time.


If there is anything else that we can help you with regarding this or
any other issue, you can reach our technical support via email. If you
go to www.comcast.net and click on 'Service Center' on the left-hand
side of the screen. Now click on 'Help' on the left and now you will see
our 'Live Chat Support'.

Thank you for choosing Comcast.

Sincerely

Kimberley R.

Comcast Customer Care

--------------------

Heh.

[Bonecrusher]

I updated my NIC card drivers...so im gonna sleep on that and try it out tomorrow.

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Sounds good.
Hopefully they can get a couple of those servers up and running for ya too.

[Devastator]

As some of you may know, I'm planning on buying/building myself a new comp. This is now a fact since yesterday, Dyson was on the family puter from 5 to almost midnight. Now I ask you, What's a fragger suppose to do from 5 to midnight without a computer?. The answer is (drumrool).....NOTHING. I did absolutly nothing. Damn I was bored. So here is what I came up with so far.

Intel Pentium 4 3.0 Ghz Processor
Intel 875P chipset P4C800/P4C800-E Asus Motherboard
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 Ultra Video Card
Sound Blaster Audigy Gamer sound card (Already purchased)
1024 Mb PC3200 RAM
Western Digital 120 Gig Hard Drive

As for the case and power supply I could leave that up to TAZ since he's the DA MAN when it comes to that (and everything else).

If you find something wrong with what I want so far please lest me know. I will need the help I can get to build my fragbox.

THX

-DEV

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Don't get 3200 DDR RAM get 2700 DDR... better performance for a lower price.

[Devastator]

Add to that a Pioneer DVD-R

[Bad-Target]

As you all know I have been having problems with TS latley. It starts a loop at various times and will not stop. Then trying to ALt+ESc to minimize UT so that I can the ctrl+Alt+Delete so that I cha shut down TS will occasionally cause me to crash. I am using the new version of TS and 2225V of UT . It might be my sound card, but I am not sure about that. I did notice that with in the windows sound settings that I had the right drivers loaded. But, I also noticed that I didn't load the Sound blaster Software manger program. Could that be the problem.?

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

As you all know I have been having problems with TS latley. It starts a loop at various times and will not stop. Then trying to ALt+ESc to minimize UT so that I can the ctrl+Alt+Delete so that I cha shut down TS will occasionally cause me to crash. I am using the new version of TS and 2225V of UT . It might be my sound card, but I am not sure about that. I did notice that with in the windows sound settings that I had the right drivers loaded. But, I also noticed that I didn't load the Sound blaster Software manger program. Could that be the problem.?

Try updating your sound card drivers. Also, which version of DirectX are you up to?
Version 9 is out, and available @ the Windows Update site.

[TAZTG]

Resource Management Guide, some nice tips to turn off the crap...
http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/index.htm

[Devastator]

What my computer will be when it's done:

TAZTG Original Case (Sweeeeeet) =]
Intel P4 2.8Ghz 800FSB
1 Gig of Corsair XMS Dual Channel RAM ( got a discount since the guys messed up ) =]
Asus P4P800 Motherboard
Western Digital 7200rpm 80Gig HardDrive
LG 16X DVD Rom
LG 52x24x52 CD burner
SoundBlaster Audigy Gamer Sound Card
Windows XP Pro (english version)
Logitech MX500 optical mouse
Keyboard to be determined
Viewsonic 19" Flat screen Monitor
GeForce FX5900 Ultra Vid card

I found some spiral wrap at an electronics store close to where I live. ( Drove an hour in a near city to find some, nada, zip, zilch. Damn stores that have everything but that.)

[TAZTG]

Damn DEV, Thats one serious system. Don't forget that the ram is 3200, thats kicking man.. :) :)

[Devastator]

Here are 2 pics of what my power supply looks like

[TAZTG]

Damn that clear tube looks Sweet. Good Job DEV. Move over TAZTG we have another Case Modder. ;)

[Devastator]

TAZ HELP!!!

Status of my computer:

DVD pluged in
Burner pluged in
Floppy pluged in
HDD pluged in
Vid Card pluged in
MotherBoard pluged in

Do I need to plug these wires and where do they go?

[Shattered_Steel]

If you got power to all your drives, you don't need to worry about the other power cords (white/clear plugs), but what do those black plugs trace back to?

[Devastator]

Power supply, I have nothing on my mobo that it could plug on

[TAZTG]

TAZ HELP!!!

Status of my computer:

DVD pluged in
Burner pluged in
Floppy pluged in
HDD pluged in
Vid Card pluged in
MotherBoard pluged in

Do I need to plug these wires and where do they go?

OK, lets see if we can help ya sort this out.


This Connector Here is the AuxPowerhttp://www.antec-inc.com/images/auxpw.jpg and
does not plug into your MoBo. You can remove the Spiral Wrap and try to hide it behind something. I actually cut mine off to get it completely out of the way.
This Connector is for http://www.antec-inc.com/images/fanonly.jpg Fan Only and IMOP a complete waste of time. Hide that one also.

The Gray Cable with all those pins are for the Front USB and Firewall Ports. Some MOBO's have expandable USB and Fireport connectors on them and thats where you could plug them in. Refer to yourMOBo Manual. If you don't use USB and Firewire all that much odds are you don't need to hook them up. Hide those suckers to.

You should have 3 Power Connectors plugged into your MOBO. Main ATX, the Small Square One 12V, and a regular looking Molex 12V. The rest plug into the HD's Graphic Card etc.

The Fan Only and AuxPower is not needed and the Front Ports aren't needed. Hope that helps!!

[Devastator]

Thx TAZ & SS, helped a lot :)

[DrahguneyeZ]

I posted in the other thread that i will be getting a new CPU or maybe even a whole new mother board. TAZ your the expert what would you get?

[TAZTG]

I posted in the other thread that i will be getting a new CPU or maybe even a whole new mother board. TAZ your the expert what would you get?

That depends on what your willing to spend and what you prefer AMD or INTEL. If you really want a Killer Rig and money then I could make a few suggestions. I see you want a new Mobo and CPU. Does this also mean new RAM??? If not then you have to match your current ram up with whats on the market.

Here's a High End Suggestion:
CPU: Pentium 4-3.2 GHz Processor Retail Box - $394
Cooling: Included - N/A
Motherboard: ABIT IC7-MAX3 - $207
Memory: Corsair XMS 1GB PC-3200 LLPRO (2X512) - $328

Or My Current Favorite:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Retail - $425
Cooling: Included - $0
Motherboard: Asus K8V Deluxe - $138
Memory: Corsair XMS 1GB PC-3200 LLPRO (2X512) - $328

[DrahguneyeZ]

Thanks Taz, My comp has a intel right now. but i know that Athalons are better for gaming.

Does this also mean new RAM???

No i have plenty of RAM, all i really need is a new processor. Thos are great suggestions TAZ thanks alot.

[Devastator]

The speed2k proggy (available here: http://www.tweakpc.com/Internet.htm) was brought to my attention by {TDC}Matrix. He posted the results he got from DSLReports. Here they are:

Matrix:
Download:7553 kbps
Upload:984 kbps

Mine:
Download:2931 kbps
Upload:377 kbps

Seeing he has more than twice of what I have, I'm considering trying it. I know that BC and TAZ don't need it but for us high ping fraggers it might be something to look into. I'm waiting on some feedback from him. I'll keep you informed.

[TAZTG]

There are lots of Sites and Programs that can help you tweak your Cable Modem. I am not sure if it will help ya with PING to Servers so far away.
I tried to access the Speedcorp Site its not there anymore but a search revealed quite a few hits.
http://www.cable-modems.org/links/

[Devastator]

I tried it... And NO, it doesn't help the ping one bit. And doens't make much a difference for internet speed either.

[Bonecrusher]

LOL. Told ya DEV. It's just spyware. None of that kind of stuff works.

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Got a big night tonight.
Have to move the room around for the new desk (it's gonna be sweet!)... which means I have to take the comp apart and put it back together... and since I'll be doing that, I might just install XP Pro tonight too.
That, of course, will require a slight bit of cd burning.
Once I get everything put together, I'll come into IRC while I'm burning my backups... then I'll be gone for another hour or two... and return when the change is complete.

:)

[TAZTG]

Got a big night tonight.
Have to move the room around for the new desk (it's gonna be sweet!)... which means I have to take the comp apart and put it back together... and since I'll be doing that, I might just install XP Pro tonight too.
That, of course, will require a slight bit of cd burning.
Once I get everything put together, I'll come into IRC while I'm burning my backups... then I'll be gone for another hour or two... and return when the change is complete.

:)
'
Well while your doing all that lets go ahead and MOD you a Black Sonata case. It would look sweet with the new desk...
Note for all Assassins: If you are in the market for a new case check out my Sonata, I can custom mod the window for ya..

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

I've been postponing wiping my system drive and doing a Fresh OS install for a while now, but seeing as I just received XP Pro from the FedEx guy, I think I'll do that now.
Considering the ease with which XP Home installed my cable modem, I don't see there being any problems getting the internet back up... but I wanted to leave this note just in case.

Seeya soon. :)

[Shattered_Steel]

I've been having some problems during my comp restarts sometimes, where it would lock up just after I rebooted. I've tracked it down to my anti-virus program, which I've now uninstalled. Anyone know of any good free anti-virus programs to replace my old one?

[Devastator]

AVG (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php) Good and FREE :D

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

That's what I use too... :D

[Bonecrusher]

Bullguard isnt too bad either...but it comes with a bunch of extra ****.

[DrahguneyeZ]

i really have no idea. I use Norton Antivirus 2003 and i got it for free. I dont plan on using anything else so i wouldnt have a clue.

[Devastator]

Bump!!!

[DrahguneyeZ]

:)

[DarkGeneral13]

When i had a problem with windows i found that a free programme called XPDite stoped those annoying "can't find DLL" from showing up. Not sure if the problem is fixed or not but it's ok now :D

[Devastator]

For nVidia users, 56.72 drivers are out. Seem to be running good.
Also if you haven't updated Windows lately, there are 5 critical updates out.

[DarkGeneral13]

Yup, got them m8, they came out last Monday *i think* What do you guys think of Dual Screen ? I bet it's gonna be expensive :(

[DrahguneyeZ]

Dual screen only means you gotta buy another Monitor. I have 4 monitors in my house but 1 is on another comp 1 of them is like a yellow color (really ugly) and the other 1 has to monitor cable.. I just gotta get a monitor cable for it and ill set up dual monitors.

[Devastator]

*BUMP*

Not for me tho, BC is getting a frame drop every once in a while. What could cause this?

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

*Bump*

I wanted to alert you all to a lil problem I had to deal with for about 2 hours yesterday morning.

Downloader.Apropos.D

This is spyware, but much MUCH worse... it's a trojan... and it's damn hard to get rid of.

Spybot S&D couldn't get rid of it.
Webroot Spysweeper couldn't get rid of it.

AVG Anti-virus couldn't get rid of it.

I had to manually remove this Trojan, myself... but there's more to it than that...
You see, if you try to delete this straight off your HDD, it reboots your system and reinstalls itself.
There's only one way around it;

Boot into safe mode, find the directory that it was installed (Root:/Windows/system32, in my case), and manually delete it.
No no.. that's not all.
Then you have to go to Start>Run>regedit and look under Local Machine>Software>Auto Loader and delete any references to ADupdater, etc... there was only one under auto loader, so it was pretty simple for me.

After doing this, you'll want to go reboot and run Spybot S&D, Spyware Sweeper, any other adware proggies you have, remove everything regarding Apropos, and then run your anti-virus again to make sure there are no other trojans on your system that Apropos was hiding from you.

After doing this, AVG found another trojan called Siboco embedded in my windows media player, and the only way I could fix it was to completely uninstall it.

You guys should check into this immediately... as in right now.

[TAZTG]

I suppose the most important question I have is What Program did you install or Email Attachment did you open that caused this Trojan to install itself??

Did someone send you something?? Was you looking for a good Donwloading Program?? Can you give us more detail as to how you got infected??

[«BuA»Meat]

thanks Lurkk for the tips i'll do it like now
:man:

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

I suppose the most important question I have is What Program did you install or Email Attachment did you open that caused this Trojan to install itself??

Did someone send you something?? Was you looking for a good Donwloading Program?? Can you give us more detail as to how you got infected??

I wish there was something specific I could tell you, but the only things I've downloaded in the last few weeks have been from BU, on the server, and my email... all of which were scanned automatically.
Besides that, I really don't surf much... so I have no idea how it got there.

I know I contracted a virus from browsing through a web page, while looking for pics for a sig... sucker just popped right up.

Sorry I couldn't tell you more.

[TAZTG]

I just found a Trojan today, it was caught by McAfee when I started TS up.

Scanning now for more crap..

[«BuA»Meat]

alright i have the same trojan that deleted the keypress.dll of ts well well well after me and dev looking at teamspeak forum we aren't the only ones they've come up with ts version 2032 u can download it from www.teamspeak.org . I did now it works alright .

If i ever caught someone vreating this kind of junk i will attach that peace of s*** at the back of my car and give him a ride of a lifetime . after if he's still breathing cause of dirt, i'll fill is mouth full of bugs now thats a virus. :D

[Bonecrusher]

Having trouble making up my mind...but I think this is my baby right here.

X-BLADE Medium Tower Case 450 W (BLACK)
(800FSB) Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU @ 3.0GHZ 512K ~ CBA603
*(DDR400-800MHz FSB)ASUS P4P800 SE I865PE AGP8X DUAL DDR w/AUDIO,USB2,LAN
1GB (512MBx2) PC3200 DDR400 Memory
80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 HARD DRIVE
NONE - 2nd Hard Drive
ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI
SONY 52X CD-ROM (BLACK)
SONY CDRW 52X32X52 EIDE (BLACK)
(BLACK) ViewSonic® E90FB 19 INCH .22H MM SVGA MONITOR
3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD


Remember...no drooling. I still have a month or two to wait before I can totally wipe yas out.

[TAZTG]

Thats a very nice RIG.. The other one you built was real nice. Its your Choice (Intel or AMD) The Intel one is nice but IMOP the AMD Athalon 64 was better.. Both are better then mine and anyone elses at this time. Patience young Fragger prices should drop some more by the time your ready..


Asus K8V Deluxe Socket 64 Motherboard with AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Processor

Diablo ATX Mid-Tower Case with 450Watt Power Supply, Front Neon Lights, Front USB and Audio Ports

Corsair Value Select Dual Channel 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory ( 2 x 512MB )

ATI RADEON 9800 PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -BULK -OEM

Maxtor 80GB / 7200 / 2MB / ATA-133 EIDE Hard Drive

Artec 16x DVD-ROM Drive / Black / OEM

Artec CD Burner / 52x32x52x CD-RW / Black / Nero Software

Viewsonic E90FB 19" UXGA 1600x1200 Black CRT Monitor

1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive (Black)

Microsoft® Windows® XP Pro Edition OEM Version

Studio RTA Computer Cart

Grand Total: $1,450.00

[Bonecrusher]

Perhaps...
Yeah its still gonna be a little wait yet.

Last day of school! Share that bottle Lurk!

WoooOOOoooOOOoooOOOoooOOO :cheers: :2thumb: :rockon:

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Perhaps...
Yeah its still gonna be a little wait yet.

Last day of school! Share that bottle Lurk!

WoooOOOoooOOOoooOOOoooOOO :cheers: :2thumb: :rockon:

I could use a bottle right about now. :eek:

[Bonecrusher]

X-BLADE Medium Tower Case 450 W (BLACK)
AMD ATHLON64 3000+ CPU ~ CAF604
NEW ASUS K8V SE Deluxe VIA K8T800 Chipset AGP8X w/LAN,USB2,IEEE,
1GB (512MBx2) PC3200 DDR400 Memory
80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 HARD DRIVE
NONE - 2nd Hard Drive
ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI
SONY 52X CD-ROM (BLACK)
SONY CDRW 52X32X52 EIDE (BLACK)
(BLACK) ViewSonic® E90FB 19 INCH .22H MM SVGA MONITOR
Creative Labs SB LIVE VALUE 5.1

Price: $1451.00


Thats the price only missing the desk.
The price above was missing mouse and keyboard. So...looks like we got something here. Hell Yeah!

[Bonecrusher]

Ok guys...I'm going to make you aware of my dilemma

Right now at current prices I can buy...

X-BLADE Medium Tower Case 450 W (BLACK)
AMD ATHLON64 3000+ CPU ~ CAI604
NEW ASUS K8V SE Deluxe VIA K8T800 Chipset AGP8X w/LAN,USB2,IEEE,
1GB (512MBx2) PC3200 DDR400 Memory (Major_Brand)
80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 HARD DRIVE
NONE - 2nd Hard Drive
ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI
SONY 52X CD-ROM (BLACK)
SONY CDRW 52X32X52 EIDE (BLACK)
(BLACK) ViewSonic® E90FB 19 INCH .22H MM SVGA MONITOR
3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD

Price: $1329.00

Pretty nice right? But can I make it a lot nicer for a small difference in cost?

The problem is in the mobo...there I have chosen a "New" ASUS
But there are four to choose from with the processor I have chosen.


Albatron K8X800 PRO VIA K8T800 Chipset AGP8X w/LAN,USB2,&Audio
MSI K8T Neo FSR VIA K8T800 Chipset AGP8X w/LAN,USB2, &Audio
GigaByte GA-K8N Pro nForce3 Chipset AGP8X w/LAN,USB2,IEEE,&Audio
NEW ASUS K8V SE Deluxe VIA K8T800 Chipset AGP8X w/LAN,USB2,IEEE,&Audio


MOBO Stats (http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/highendsystem/a64board.htm)

Now is the ASUS really worth $53 more dollars than the Albatron which is run on the same chipset?
I'm thinking the main reason the ASUS costs more is because it comes with a Wi-Fi slot for wireless LAN upgrade which I'm probably not going to use.

What I could do with that extra $53 dollars (and a couple more bucks):


Upgrade to an AMD ATHLON64 3200+ CPU
Upgrade to 1024 MB (512 MB x2) Corsair XMS High Performance Memory w/ Heat Spreader
Upgrade to an ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 256MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI



X-BLADE Medium Tower Case 450 W (BLACK)
AMD ATHLON64 3200+ CPU ~ CAI603
Albatron K8X800 VIA K8T800 Mboard
1GB (512MBx2) PC3200 DDR400 Memory (Major_Brand)
80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 HARD DRIVE
NONE - 2nd Hard Drive
ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI
SONY 52X CD-ROM (BLACK)
SONY CDRW 52X32X52 EIDE (BLACK)
(BLACK) ViewSonic® E90FB 19 INCH .22H MM SVGA MONITOR
3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD

Price: $1342.00

or

X-BLADE Medium Tower Case 450 W (BLACK)
AMD ATHLON64 3000+ CPU ~ CAI604
Albatron K8X800 VIA K8T800 Mboard
1GB (512MBx2) PC3200 DDR400 Memory (Corsair_XMS)
80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 HARD DRIVE
NONE - 2nd Hard Drive
ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI
SONY 52X CD-ROM (BLACK)
SONY CDRW 52X32X52 EIDE (BLACK)
(BLACK) ViewSonic® E90FB 19 INCH .22H MM SVGA MONITOR
3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD

Price: $1376.00

or

X-BLADE Medium Tower Case 450 W (BLACK)
AMD ATHLON64 3000+ CPU ~ CAI604
Albatron K8X800 VIA K8T800 Mboard
1GB (512MBx2) PC3200 DDR400 Memory (Major_Brand)
80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 HARD DRIVE
NONE - 2nd Hard Drive
ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 256MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI
SONY 52X CD-ROM (BLACK)
SONY CDRW 52X32X52 EIDE (BLACK)
(BLACK) ViewSonic® E90FB 19 INCH .22H MM SVGA MONITOR
3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD

Price: $1380.00


Your Thoughts?

[«BuA»Meat]

here's what i think-

when it comes to computers, it's changing so damn fast that even if you get a super mega ultra sicky rig so powerful that you must connect it directly to hydro electricity central, you still gonna have to change it for specific needs in around 4 years. does it worth it ?

[Devastator]

BC, try getting the ASUS K8V Deluxe instead of the K8V SE Deluxe. only diff is the Wi-Fi slot.

[Bad-Target]

Read all the reviews befor you leap. My rig was from Cyber Power PC, so far so good. I did have a harddrive die and the Cd writer other then those two things its been great.

[Bonecrusher]

BC, try getting the ASUS K8V Deluxe instead of the K8V SE Deluxe. only diff is the Wi-Fi slot.


Well if I build it from cyberpower I only have that ASUS to choose from. Getting all the parts myself will probably end up being...messy.


I also did discover another thing. After doing some measurements...I realized the 19" monitor will not fit into my room. So I'm downsizing to the 17" one...which is the same size I have now. Works fine. That saves me even more money.

So here is what it comes down to...

Being that I saved $70 dollars just by downsizing the monitor 2 inches which wouldnt fit anyway...I can go with the ASUS mobo...and I saved enough to go with an upgrade to athlon 64 3200+ , Corsair XMS, or upgrade to the ATI 9800 Pro 256MB

What do you think is the best thing to do?

[TAZTG]

Corsair XMS would be my bet. The better the ram the more stable your rig will run.

[TAZTG]

ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL-$168.00

Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Athlon64 and Athlon64 FX Series Processors
Chipset: VIA K8T800Pro + VT8237
RAM: 4x DIMM for Dual-Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
IDE: 3x ATA 133 up to 6 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,SPDIF Out,1xLAN,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),2xIEEE1394(Rear 1),Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC850 8-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN: Marvell 88E8001 GbE
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2xSATA by VT8237, RAID 0/1/JBOD; 2x SATA & 1x ATA 133 by Promise 20378, RAID 0/1/0+1/Multiple RAID
Onboard 1394: VIA VT6307
Features: ASUS WiFi-g PCI card
Form Factor: ATX

AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 3500+, 2.2 GHz, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - OEM $485.00

- Specifications -
Model: AMD Athlon 64
Core: Newcastle
Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 939
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)

Swiftech MCX6400-V - Athlon 64 & Opteron Price: $54.00

Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4000PRO - Retail $322.00

- Specifications -
Manufacturer: Corsair
Speed: DDR500(PC4000)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 3-4-4-8 1T
Support Voltage: 2.75V
Bandwidth: 4.0GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
Special Features: 18 activity LED's show level of memory activity
Warranty: Lifetime


Seagate 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3120026AS, OEM $97.00

- Specifications -
Capacity: 120GB
Average Seek Time: 8.5 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: Serial ATA
Features: 350 Gs non-op shock, 3D Defense System
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
Packaging: OEM, Requires additional Power adapter


Thats a start...

[Bonecrusher]

I figured...I'll take $1000 out of the $2000 CD that is coming due in august...and put that with ALL the money earned at giant up til that point...and thats how much I'll spend. I'm figuring something a little bit like this.

X-BLADE Medium Tower Case 450 W (BLACK)
(939-pin) AMD ATHLON64 3500+ CPU ~ CAI703
(939-pin) ASUS A8V DELUXE VIA K8T800 MAINBOARD
1GB (512MBx2) PC3200 DDR400 Memory (Corsair_XMS)
80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 HARD DRIVE
NONE - 2nd Hard Drive
ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI
56X CD-ROM (BLACK)
ARTEC CD-RW 52X32X52 (BLACK)
(SILVER/BLACK) ViewSonic® 17
3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD

Price: $1585.00

(Cyberpower updated their website with a whole bunch of new ****)

[TAZTG]

BC, thats a start and future upgradeable. You should think SATA HardDrive, they are not much more then ATA Drives.

[Bonecrusher]

And whats the diff. between the two?

[TAZTG]

SATA is faster.

[Bonecrusher]

Alright fellaz. I got another question for you...and it has nothing to new with a NEW computer.

This peice of **** some call a sony VAIO has a strange folder that has some extremely old stuff in it.

I go to:

C:\Documents and Settings\sony user\Local Settings\Temp

In that folder is 3,665 Files and 265 Folders. 1.12 GB worth of them. WTF ARE THEY THERE FOR? The oldest folder in there is from Saturday, September 08, 2001. Oldest file being from Thursday, January 21, 1999.

Almost every folder I open is empty anyway...then there are hundreds of .ABI files, .exe files, .dmp files, and thousands of .tmp files. Can I delete the thing? Whats it there for?

If you know something I don't...could you tell me? Or give me some advice? Thanks.

[Devastator]

Try to go under tools, folder options, view, show hidden files and folders. Might just bring something up. If not, they are "temp" folders, delete em.

But I would wait or a second opinion --> TAZ or Lurk

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

I would try looking under control panel>>add/remove software and see if it's listed.
If it is listed, see how often you use it... if it says never, then uninstall, go back to the folder and delete everything.
It's likely that you're not using it, tho... considering how old your files are, but it's best (and safest) to check it out in add/remove software first.
If there's no listing in add/remove software, then I believe it should be safe to completely remove it from your system.

[TAZTG]

David Gingerich's Wishlist

SKU Product Price Purchased
CPU-AMD64-0004 AMD ATHLON 64 3500+ 939PIN OEM
$485.00
VC-AOPEN-6800U AOPEN Aeolus 6800Ultra-DVD256 RETAIL (PRE-ORDER)
$539.00
MB-ASUS-018 ASUS A8V DELUXE K8T800PRO Wi- Fi MOTHERBOARD RETAIL (ETA 6/25)
$160.00
MMN-COR-078 CORSAIR 1GB (2X512MB) PC3200 XL KIT SERIES MEMORY RETAIL
$340.00
HD-SEGA-001 SEAGATE 80GB/7200 SERIAL ATA HARD DRIVE 8MB OEM
$78.00

[Bonecrusher]

Hey Taz! Looks like we might have almost identical rigs. LOL. Now all I need is more money.

I'm about $200 from the 3500+
$500 away from the 3800+ :lol: What a shame.

[TAZTG]

If you get the Socket 939 Motherboard then you hav eto get a 3500 CPU minimum. Its a nice board with Dual Memory Support. Guess you have to Pimp out to those Housewives a little longer then you wanted... :lol: :lol:

[Iceburgs]

Taz, we gotta start talking about what parts I need to get to build my new fragbox. Now that Gabby has started college, she will need the comp quite a bit, so it's best to get cracking. :)

[TAZTG]

Taz, we gotta start talking about what parts I need to get to build my new fragbox. Now that Gabby has started college, she will need the comp quite a bit, so it's best to get cracking. :)

You have my number call me when your ready. I am going to start pretty soon on my upgrades sometime in July..

[Bonecrusher]

You know for a little while today I thought upgrading my teamspeak fixed my sticky keys problem or whatever you wanna call it.

First map I did some serious damage and almost made myself sick. Then look what happenes on the second map! WTF is wrong with my computer!?


When it said the speedhack was detected I was probably getting 1 or 2 frames per second. I was jumping all over the damn place. It was terrible.

[TAZTG]

You know for a little while today I thought upgrading my teamspeak fixed my sticky keys problem or whatever you wanna call it.

First map I did some serious damage and almost made myself sick. Then look what happenes on the second map! WTF is wrong with my computer!?


When it said the speedhack was detected I was probably getting 1 or 2 frames per second. I was jumping all over the damn place. It was terrible.


I noticed your PING is 195 in the one screen. I am thinking Graphics Card Drivers.

When your Crappy SONY VAIO was running almost decent what Version of the Catalyst Drivers was you using? You installed new drivers maybe something just isn't right with them. Sometimes installing newer drivers onto a older card doesn't work. I am using old drivers on my ProphetIII which runs pretty good. You have tried pretty much everything else but bad frames or caused by Bad Graphics. Is your Card getting to hot?? You said the second map it started to act up. Check your Airflow, pull the card out clean the fan real good. Uninstall Drivers and reinstall them. Your stuff wasn't acting up this bad before.. Cards go bad so maybe thats the case..

[Bonecrusher]

Well I went back two catalyst drivers. Played another game of thorns and all seemed well...but then citadel wouldn't get off the loading screen. I'll have to test this theory out at practice or whenever somebody to frag with shows up around here.

[Shattered_Steel]

Well, graphics have nothing to do with one's ping. I would suggest instead calling your ISP and seeing if they can detect any kind of problem with your connection. Do a tracert to our server and see if there are any particular hops that ping bad (you'll have to do at least ten to check for consistent results). Do you have cable or dsl? If cable, maybe somebody is turning on their tivo or something and causing your bandwidth to go to crap. But my main point is that your hardware isn't causing bad pings... unless it's the modem itself. Hmm, might want to get your cable or dsl company to switch out your modem for you. It may make a big difference. How old is the one you currently have? If it's around 2+ years, I'd definitely have it switched out, but they can also start to go bad before that.

[TAZTG]

Well, graphics have nothing to do with one's ping. I would suggest instead calling your ISP and seeing if they can detect any kind of problem with your connection. Do a tracert to our server and see if there are any particular hops that ping bad (you'll have to do at least ten to check for consistent results). Do you have cable or dsl? If cable, maybe somebody is turning on their tivo or something and causing your bandwidth to go to crap. But my main point is that your hardware isn't causing bad pings... unless it's the modem itself. Hmm, might want to get your cable or dsl company to switch out your modem for you. It may make a big difference. How old is the one you currently have? If it's around 2+ years, I'd definitely have it switched out, but they can also start to go bad before that.

No Duh..
We all know Graphics Cards have nothing to do with PING.. I was just pointing out his high PING. BC's problem has nothing to do with his connection. His VAIO is having problems running the game. Keys not responding, framerates dropping to <10, running laggy even with details set to low. Those current problems and the fact that he could atleast run the game somewhat prior to the past month makes me wonder if its not some kind of Driver or Hardware problem. Its very well documented that ATI put out crappy drivers on occasion and going back to a previous version that actually worked is logical. Don't ya think??

[Bonecrusher]

Last night while you guys were at "practice" my mom actually made an attempt to help me out. She doesn't know any more than I do...but two heads are better than one right? Heres what we did.

Turned off the puter and ripped out the video card. Blew all the dust out of the fan, and out of the slot on the mobo...put it back in and it still didn't help. Just to narrow things down I fired up 2K3...and that does it too. So blaming the game is out.

When I locked up in bollwerk with the flag and ran into the lava...I leaned down to see if i could tell WHAT beeped at me, but I couldn't tell. If I had the old nvidia drivers for that 32MB card that came with the puter, I'd slap that in for ****s and giggles...but cant find em. Either the mobo is going bad, one of the sticks of memory is going bad (Do you think a 256MB PC133 Memory stick would last six years? I know I don't) or the vid card is dying, those are the only things I think it could be.

And hardware getting hot can't be it because Taz had me take off the side panel for better airflow. I'm not gonna hurt my head on it. This computer works fine for everyday school use and stuff. Running games is a no-go. So I'm gonna have to excuse myself from practices for a while until I get a puter. Count on two months atleast. Just gonna work my ass off for more money.

BTW taz...Corsair came down $50 on cyberpowersystem. I dunno if its a special or what...but if the price goes back up later I'll be pissed. I got a nice Athlon 64 3500+ mapped out for under $1600

[TAZTG]

www.guru3d.com or nvidia.com fro NVIDIA Drivers.
You can actually test your ram out very easy. Pull 1 stick and fire up UT2K3, if it still occurs turn off puter and swap sticks and try again. If it still occurs its not ram. Pull ATI Card put in TNT32MB card and give that a shot, if that doesn't work you can scratch Graphics and Ram off List. Since this only occurs During Gameplay, makes me think RAM or Graphics Card. These things are used alot during gameplay. The only other thing would be Harddrive (Virtual Memory) Is there a Default Settings Button you can click on?? Now since your back on the New Puter Bus lets talk Barebones!! Lets list the Bare Minimum you would need to Play!
1) Mobo
2) CPU
3) Ram
4) Heatsink (Only if CPU is OEM)
5) CD Rom
6) Hardrive (Nope, I can donate a 40GB WD)
7) Case/PS (Nope, Got one)

You should have the rest.. Will have to switch Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse back and forth between VAIO and New (Bone Box) <<Theme>>
Then you slowly but surely save up and get rest of gear!!

Lets see what we can do!!

Here's a barebones from Monarch!
Pre-Tested and Setup AMD Athlon 64 (754) Barebones System
$18.00
Case: 100520 - PS 420W - Logisys Scorpio Mid-Tower Case
$59.00
Motherboard: 110161 - Asus K8V K8T800 DDR-400/SATA/USB/GB-LAN/8 $99.00
Processor: 120759 - AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 512K (Retail Box-w-Fa
$245.00
Memory: 140693 - DDR (400) 3200 - 1 GB (2 pcs 512) OCZ
$195.00

Total= $616.00
Now Add
Asus CD-S520 52X CD-ROM (Black) $26.00
Total=$642.00

I see the Graphic Crad is missing, but wait I have a TI4600 you can borrow until you upgrade!! Isn't that correct ICEY??

[Bonecrusher]

I gotta thank you for the help you're offering. But I think I got this one. Its just gonna take a little time. I could use some free time anyway. Give me two months. I'll still drop in every once in a while and check on things, and I'll give yas tips if you want em. I was helping meat out this morning. Ima get me a fragbox and come back with a vengeance.

But with my time off from the game, I'm gonna work, and get out and see the world. Dev knows what I'm talking about. This coming Saturday I'm gonna vanish for a whole week (going on vacation)...don't get lost while im gone. After that, its all about work. I'm gonna ask for extra hours wherever possible. You see...instead of sitting here talking about random things I could be at work making money and having fun while im doing it. Thats right, I find working at the grocery store FUN. I ENJOY going to work. wish I was there now, I think ima make a trip up there just to talk to my friends.

Anyways...yeah. Thanks for the help taz, But I'll take care of it. Time off can be good sometimes. See yas!

[TAZTG]

I wish more young folks and older folks had the same atitiude you have. Work can be fun even if you don't like your job. It gets you out of your house and you meet other folks.. Good Luck and Enjoy!!

[Bonecrusher]

I guess GLHF applies to a job too huh :)

I'll be back!!!!!!!

[«BuA»Meat]

hey dude work is a place you want to be happy because for me co-worker are the ones i see most of my time. I see my co-workers more than my wife so you better like where you work.

Also i gladly liked our tt discussion this morning, i'm taking good notes of it wish their was more !

[Bonecrusher]

There is more. All you gotta do is ask. I would walk you through myself if I could. But thats where you wing it and find new stuff that I don't even know about. :)

[Devastator]

I'll be back!!!!!!!

YOU BETTER!!! :mad:

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Ya better pop in more than "once in a while", bucko... ;)

[Iceburgs]

What Lurk said. Don't become a complete stranger. You know, I have heard that a certain neighbor of yours has an unused computer many evenings during the week. seeing as this certain neighbor isn't around during those hours, you think he would mind if you used it every once in a while? :) :p

[Bonecrusher]

Hell hes on vacation I could go over there and be ready to play in 10 minutes. But i'm not gonna do it. Tempting...but no. Although I am leaving for his house in a couple minutes to pick up his dog's ****, talk about a job. LMAO. I'll be around, I just can't play with yas for a while.

[TAZTG]

David Gingerich's Wishlist

SKU Product Price Purchased
CPU-AMD64-0004 AMD ATHLON 64 3500+ 939PIN OEM
$485.00
VC-AOPEN-6800U AOPEN Aeolus 6800Ultra-DVD256 RETAIL (PRE-ORDER)
$539.00
MB-ASUS-018 ASUS A8V DELUXE K8T800PRO Wi- Fi MOTHERBOARD RETAIL (ETA 6/25)
$160.00
MMN-COR-078 CORSAIR 1GB (2X512MB) PC3200 XL KIT SERIES MEMORY RETAIL
$340.00
HD-SEGA-001 SEAGATE 80GB/7200 SERIAL ATA HARD DRIVE 8MB OEM
$78.00

OK Order has been placed minus the Graphic Card, and I changed Hard Drives to 2-120GB Western Digitals!! Should be here sometime at the end of this week. WooT!!

[Iceburgs]

Dammit, TAZ, you didn't wait for me! I wanted to make an order as well, so we could have a nice fun Sunday with putting our new fragboxes together. :)

[Shattered_Steel]

Well, he wasn't prepared to wait until the end of this decade, Ice. On a side note, it appears I have to, however. Oh well. Someday I'll have the money to upgrade (though by the time I do it'll prolly be just as wise to buy a whole new machine).

[TAZTG]

Its OK ICE, we can still have a Build a Box Party.. Order your stuff and lets get to building.. Sounds like FUN!!

[TAZTG]

Jul 9, 2004 8:02 am On FedEx vehicle for delivery BELTSVILLE MD 8:02 am


ICE, get your Gear together its Time!! I will most likely start next week.. Tues., Wed. That should give you time to pick up a 9800. Time to take a day off and play.. Lemme know whats good for ya..

[TAZTG]

Well Hell Folks!! Bad Site Warning!!

I decided to upgrade my Fragbox and figured I would save some money and not order from NewEgg. I ordered the following from GameVe (http://www.gameve.com/gve/default.aspx) on 7/3/04.

MB-ASUS-018 1 ASUS A8V DELUXE K8T800PRO Wi- Fi MOTHERBOARD RETAIL $145.00

MMN-COR-078 1 CORSAIR 1GB (2X512MB) PC3200 XL KIT SERIES MEMORY RETAIL $340.00

HD-WD-020 2 WESTERN DIGITAL 120GB SATA HARD DRIVE OEM $196.00

CPU-AMD64-0004 1 AMD ATHLON 64 3500+ 939PIN OEM $485.00

ACC-SUN-0046 1 BLUE LED ACRYLIC CASE FEET RETAIL $16.99

I received the order today 7/9/04, I didn't order overnite so time wise was OK. The problem arose when I opened the box and reviewed my order.
1- The RAM has B.O. wrote on it. (Website Clearly Shows In Stock)
2- The LED Case Feet turned into a 80mm CREAIR Fan!! (Very Cheap Looking Fan) Its not even listed on the WebSite..
:confused:

Thats only the beginning.. I dialed their 1-800 and got the Phone Answering Run Around for like 30 minutes. Dial 0 for operator, Sorry busy leave a message, Dial 1 for Extensions or dial your parties extension. I tried 10 names and numbers, nobody answered all voice mail.
I hung up waited a bit and tried again and finally someone picked up the damn phone. I explained to him my situation, and he put me on hold to check on the RAM. Its on Back Order.. I know you freaking Idiot, Why is it on B.O. when your Site states its in Stock and usually ships in 2-3 days??? He couldn't figure that out. I then told him about not receiving the Case Feet and receiving a Fan I didn't order. He told me I had to RMA the FAN!:eek: ***, a 3 dollar fan that I didn't order has to be RMA back to them?? He kept saying I am just trying to help doing my job etc. It still doesn't make sense. How can you RMA something you didn't order?? We will put a shipping label in the box when we send your RAM and CaseFeet. When will that be? Not sure next week sometime.. Talk about some BAD Real BAD Customer Service.. That has to be one of the worst sites to order from , I will not be ordering anything ever again from GameVe just to save a few bucks. Yea the prices where cheaper on a few items but its not worth the grief.. Hell hopefully the Mobo works hate to have to RMA it..

[«BuA»Meat]

i know the feeling when i bought mine isave 100 $ from where i would normaly buy and have some much problem with mobo and cpu that my 100 $ (can by the way) i spend it on gas returning that **** over and over again :(

want to shoot the bastich :instagib:

[TAZTG]

Phase II Complete.. BigBlue rebuilt with Fragbox gear, I also rewired here some.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/taztg/PICS/Dcp_2388.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/taztg/PICS/Dcp_2391.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/taztg/PICS/Dcp_2391.jpg

Working on Phase III now, formatting HD's..

[Bonecrusher]

Heeeeey Tazy poo...do you have any BLUE LED case fans lying around? ;)

My case that im getting only comes with two case fans...the one in the side panel being a blue led...other is a cheap POS.

[Bad-Target]

Phase II Complete.. BigBlue rebuilt with Fragbox gear, I also rewired here some.


Wow Someone could eat in there its so clean. Please tell me you didn't polish it.

[Bad-Target]

I ENJOY going to work. wish I was there now, I think ima make a trip up there just to talk to my friends.


There has to be some preaty girls on staff, for you to love it so much.

[«BuA»Meat]

well sometimes you have to dust it out because those fans won't work proprely and will heat your puter. I do mine evry now and then.

[Bonecrusher]

There has to be some preaty girls on staff, for you to love it so much.


Well BT you nailed that one. I told you all before there are always hotties at the grocery store, I just seem to be lucky enough to work at one where some of the hotties WORK there. Hell yes, plus the work isn't too hard, getting a good pay, see lots of people. Very enjoyabe.

[TAZTG]

Sorry no BLUE LED Fans... I have them all in use. Thats why I have plenty of other fans, I replaced them all with Blue LED ones.. LOL

[Bonecrusher]

Ok...I'll just go shopping then. Ima get two or three blue LED fans, blue thumbscrews, and chrome sleeving. Wewt!

[Bonecrusher]

I've got a noob question for you.

Where do the fans plug into directly? And do I have to wait til my puter comes to know if I will need 3 or 4 pin connectors? I have a feeling ima need some extra wiring when I put a fan in the front of the case.

And If I'm gonna buy some sleeving for the fan wires, will 1/4" sleeving be big enough?

[TAZTG]

What you want is a Fan Controller.. Then you can buy 3 Pin Fans. Most fans come as 3 Pin except the real powerful ones like Delta's and Tornado's. CompUSA had some but I don't see them online. PCToys but these from FrozenCPU are what they look like.

http://www.frozencpu.com/images/products/detail_hires/bus-18.jpg

That way you plug your fans into the back of the controllwer and can turn down the noise when needed.

If not Motherboards come with 3-4 3 pin connectors for fans. If you need to use a Molex connector then you can always by a special connector..

[Bonecrusher]

This case is coming with a 3x fan controller. I guess I might have to get another one :rolleyes: Hehe.

[Bonecrusher]

I'm guessing one of those controllers take the place of a 5.25" Drive Bay huh.

[«BuA»Meat]

Dang! i install (while ago) that carball mod and now i'm having problems connecting to some servers. i'm having a disparity cball error.

anyone knows how to get rid of that **** ?

the mod is cool but noones plays it!

[Bonecrusher]

Newer mods come with their own startup icon. If you load up UT and switch to that mod, it screws up sometimes. It either comes with its own .exe or a .bat file. You might have to reinstall now.

[Bonecrusher]

OHHH JEEBUS! Cyberpower is offering free shipping today! But I can't order til late Friday night or Saturday! DAMMIT :(

I'm real sad now. Actually I'm pissed. :mad:

[Bonecrusher]

X-BLADE Medium Tower Case 450 W (BLACK)
(939-pin) AMD ATHLON64 3500+ CPU ~ CAI703
(939-pin) ASUS A8V DELUXE VIA K8T800 MAINBOARD
1GB (512MBx2) PC3200 DDR400 Memory (Corsair_XMS)
Seagate 80GB 7200RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache
NONE - 2nd Hard Drive
ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI
SONY 16X DVD-ROM (BLACK)
SONY CDRW 52X32X52 EIDE (BLACK)
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It's on its way :)
ETA: Monday, August 2, 2004

Hey hey, If I'm lucky I'll be at practice on my new fragbox that night :)

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

It's on its way :)
ETA: Monday, August 2, 2004

Hey hey, If I'm lucky I'll be at practice on my new fragbox that night :)

I'll be on vacation from the 29th - 6th, so I'll be there to help you work that sucka out! :D

[TAZTG]

I will also help ya tweak your settings.
You won't be any good at UT for a few days until you adjust to the awesome FPS your getting... LOL

[Bonecrusher]

I guess I void the warranty if I sleeve the power supply huh. :(
I'm just hoping the fans they give me is enough, then all I gotta buy is the thumbscrews :)

[Bonecrusher]

Holy jeebus! I'm so glad I ordered the puter when I did. They just changed their website and made the model computer I got customizable with the FX53.

By creating the same computer I just bought for $1595, It came out to be $1731

So yeah, I guess I made a wise choice :)

[TAZTG]

Holy jeebus! I'm so glad I ordered the puter when I did. They just changed their website and made the model computer I got customizable with the FX53.

By creating the same computer I just bought for $1595, It came out to be $1731

So yeah, I guess I made a wise choice :)

The AMD FX53 is much more expensive. WooT BC will be rocking soon..

[Bonecrusher]

No no, I didn't build it with that. The website had the 64's and the FX53's seperated, now they have both of them available with one model. I still took the 3500+ and all the other stuff I got, and it came out much more expensive.

So yeah, I'm happy now. :)

[«BuA»Meat]

can't wait to have my ass kick and found Bc on my way up there :lol:

[Bonecrusher]

Translation please... ;)

[«BuA»Meat]

i can't wait to see bc back on track and to frag with him.

[Bonecrusher]

OK now I understand :)

Hey hey, no work tomorrow, so I'll probably be mapping it up again. Woot.

[Bonecrusher]

Heading out soon to get my UPS (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051384661648&skuId=5248154&type=product) and my Cat-5 cable. 25' is short by about two feet. So I have to get a damn fifty footer.

Puter should be here by Tuesday at the latest.
Check out the desk I ordered.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1055770279918&skuId=5704865&type=product

They said that would be here between the third and eleventh. The eleventh seems like a pretty long time to wait for a desk.

[Bonecrusher]

Is it possible to do a drive partition when there is already stuff on the HD? If so, how?

[«BuA»Meat]

partition magique is the key

[Bonecrusher]

Of course I need to backup what is on the HD anyway. This stuff is a pain in the ass.

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

If I were you, I would only back up the things that were most important... and clean install everything else you need.
Remember; the less you have running in the background, the better your system will run.

Even tho it's time consuming, this is one of my favorite parts of putting together a new comp... because usually (by now) you already know exactly what you want on it, and installing what you want and need should be cheese. :)

[Bonecrusher]

Two things.

I know some of you were getting runtime errors when you try to load up UT. How'd you fix it? Becuz I'm getting it on the new puter.

And I keep getting Internet explorer errors on the forums and other places, and it makes me close all windows. I had to try five times just to be able to post this.

[Bonecrusher]

I can play single player fine now, but when I try to join a server it gives me this error.

UT2004 Build UT2004_Patch_[2004-06-11_16.51]

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: AuthenticAMD Unknown processor @ 2205 MHz with 1023MB RAM
Video: RADEON 9800 (6458)

General protection fault!

History: ULinkerLoad::CreateImport <- IndexToObject <- ULinkerLoad<<UObject <- (LinkerLoad Package.LinkerLoad 165824)) <- SerializeExpr <- (01) <- SerializeExpr <- (84) <- SerializeExpr <- (84) <- SerializeExpr <- (07) <- UStruct::Serialize <- (Function utcompv13b.BS_xPlayer.BehindView) <- UFunction::Serialize <- LoadObject <- (Function utcompv13b.BS_xPlayer.BehindView 165824==165824/423024 165713 256) <- ULinkerLoad::Preload <- LinkProperties <- UStruct::Link <- UState::Link <- UClass::Link <- UStruct::Serialize <- (Class utcompv13b.BS_xPlayer) <- UState::Serialize <- UClass::Serialize <- (Class utcompv13b.BS_xPlayer) <- LoadObject <- (Class utcompv13b.BS_xPlayer 165824==165824/423024 27157 4991) <- ULinkerLoad::Preload <- PreLoadObjects <- UObject::EndLoad <- UPackageMap::PairToObject <- UPackageMapLevel::SerializeObject <- (Class Core.Object None) <- FInBunch<<UObject <- InitialClientActor <- UActorChannel::ReceivedBunch <- (Actor None) <- UChannel::ReceivedSequencedBunch <- Direct <- UChannel::ReceivedRawBunch <- DispatchDataToChannel <- BunchData <- UNetConnection::ReceivedPacket <- UNetConnection::ReceivedRawPacket <- UTcpNetDriver::TickDispatch <- UpdatePreNet <- ULevel::Tick <- (NetMode=3) <- TickLevel <- UGameEngine::Tick <- Level Orbital2 <- UpdateWorld <- MainLoop <- FMallocWindows::Free <- FMallocWindows::Realloc <- 676F4C57 0 FArray <- FArray::Realloc <- 0*2 <- FMallocWindows::Free

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Never got a runtime error on UT2k4, so I can't help there, other than to say that there's prolly an answer in the help sections of Epic or Atari's website.

As far as IE goes, I've had so many damn problems with it that I quit using both Win Media Player and IE.
I use Firefox and the updated version of Winamp, now.

Firefox has plenty of info on helping you get adjusted and changing your settings to be more like IE.

Yeah, it loads a little slower, but I have yet to be infected by pop ups. ;)

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

I can play single player fine now, but when I try to join a server it gives me this error.

UT2004 Build UT2004_Patch_[2004-06-11_16.51]

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: AuthenticAMD Unknown processor @ 2205 MHz with 1023MB RAM
Video: RADEON 9800 (6458)

General protection fault!

That's yer 64bit CPU, yes?

Hmm... again I would have to direct you to either Epic or Atari's help pages and/or forums.

I'm not sure if UT2k4 is compatible with a 64-bit CPU, but there must be some kinda work around by now.

Sorry I couldn't help more. :(

[TAZTG]

That's yer 64bit CPU, yes?

Hmm... again I would have to direct you to either Epic or Atari's help pages and/or forums.

I'm not sure if UT2k4 is compatible with a 64-bit CPU, but there must be some kinda work around by now.

Sorry I couldn't help more. :(

Lurker, the AMD 64bits CPU's are backward compatible with 32 bit software. They even run better on the 64 bit systems. I have the same Mobo and CPU as BC and I have no problems running any software.

BC, I have gotten those errors before on occasion. I would restart UT join that map in Instant Action then rejoin the server. That usually worked. I have found that a few servers running maps with same names as mine didn't work. I had to wait for map to change or pick another server. If your getting that on every server then check the following.

1) Turn Off XP Firewall..
2) Check your Settings in UT to make sure they are correct.
3) Get all your Critical Updates and other Crap from MS.
4) Tweak your XP.

I will work with ya when I get home but I bet you will be all twaeked by then.

[Bonecrusher]

Well when do you get home? Because I work tonight. For a while my internet wasn't working at all, but its fixed for now. I can't get into UT at all. It keeps giving me the C++ runtime error.

[TAZTG]

3:30-4PM, I will be online to try to help ya. Let me research that error more and see if we can figure something out. In the meantime make sure you have everything updated. Have you gone into the BIOS and checked all those settings? Talk at ya later..

[TAZTG]

BC, I have run countless searches on many forums.
You are not alone with having this error.
Here's a good One.
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=383270&highlight=C+Runtime+Error

Have you tried a fresh clean install of UT2004?
Most of the errors folks had occured after they installed a new patch or bonuspack. You installed 3270 and then went back to 3236. Try a fresh install. Completely remove all traces of UT2004 and give it a go. There isn't many answers for it.. Drivers and reinstalls... Do the search and read for your self.. Thats very bad for you BC, what freaking luck, new rig and now damn error. Don't give up we can find a fix..

[Bonecrusher]

I've emailed cyberpower technical support about my many problems.

I keep getting errors while using internet explorer, and my microsoft help and support either doesn't work or doesn't exist.

I think they sent me a faulty video card too, because I was playing farcry and i would get so jumpy, down to like, 2 frames per second. And then it quits to the desktop all by itself :rolleyes:

All I know is I'm Fu$%in pissed off that this peice of **** doesn't work. I'd throw it outt he window but there are no windows in the basement. I think either its gonna be sent back, or cyberpower is gonna send me a new vid card and full copy of windows xp or something. Because this is serious bull****.

[«BuA»Meat]

i know the feeling bc remember when i got mine, they had to order a new cpu and motherboard and they've change the power supply 3 weeks total after delivery i could do something with that piece of...... well used to be **** mouhahahaahahhaha

[TAZTG]

Thats messed up BC... Sorry I couldn't give ya more advice.
The only other thing I would do is to Reformat the hardrive and install XP from scratch.
BTW: Format Steps
1) First Load OS XP
2) Load Mobo Drivers for Chipset, Lan, Sound etc
3) Load Graphic Card Drivers
4) Run Critical Updates and Install latest DirectX.
5) Load UT2004
6) Play UT and test system. If it crashes and has errors then return the crappy AMD system and buy a Intel P4.. :eek:

[Bonecrusher]

I think I void the warranty if I reformat :rolleyes:

[«BuA»Meat]

nope
i don't believe so

[TAZTG]

I think I void the warranty if I reformat :rolleyes:

OK, here's a shot in the dark.
You told me you added a NIC Card. That means you only have 1 PCI card and 1 AGP Card. If they added the WiFi Crap and it is actually in a PCI slot don't worry about it. If you added the NIC to PCI 1 the slot right below the AGP slot then thats your problem. They share IRQ's and don't play nice together. Open your ASUS Mobo maunual and check out page 2-16. If your in slot 1 move it to slot 3. Move the damn thing to another slot anyway ytou could be sharing IRQ's with something else you have enabled.
Now don't put your book away, I want you to read the BIOS section. Lets go through some items that you need to change.
Main Menu Page 4-12
Nothing to change just make sure its detecting everything.

Advanced Menu PAge 4-15
CPU Config. We aren't going to mess with these settings.
HyperTransport Config. Defaults are fine. 1000, 16, 16
Memory Config. Defaults Fine Leave on Auto..
AMD Cool N' Quiet -- Make sure its Disabled.. (I don't use it)

Go back to Advanced and click on Chipset Page 4-21.
AGP Bridge & Config.
Pretty much default but change your AGP Aperture size to 128.

Go Back to Advanced and Click on Onboard Device Config. Page 4-24.
Here's were we turn off and on alot of crap you don't use or need.
Onboard AC 97 Audio- Enabled (You use it right!!!)
OnChip SATA Boot ROM- Disabled (You don't have a SATA Hardrive If you get one in the future just enable)
OnBoard Promise Controller- Disabled (See Above)
Onboard LAN- Disabled (You have a NIC Card)
Serial Port1 & 2: Disabled (Please don't tell me you have still have crap that uses Serial Ports)
Parallel Port- If you have printer Select EPP
Onboard Game/MIDI Port -Disabled (Enable if you plug in Joystick etc.)
DONE- Go back to Advance Menu Click on PCI PnP.
First Choice Plug and Play O/S- I enabled mine!! Your Choice..
I disabled Speech Config. Instant Music & Didn't mess with Power Settings. Save and exit changes.

Note this won't void warranty either will reformatting Harddrives. Changing Hardware, Modding, stuff like that would. Don't be scared of your BIOS, just note your changes in the book with a pencil and in the future you can refer back if you ever need to change them again. BTW, thats where most of your OverClocking is done.. Hopefully you had your NIC Card in PCI 1 and moving it will fix the problem. Its a known fact that if you use a AGP card nothing should go into PCI 1.. Good Luck Little Dude..

[Bonecrusher]

Well, I appreciate your trying to help, but the NIC card was in slot 3, nothing is in slot 1.

I did check the BIOS settings that night when I got home from work. All was set at what you said it should be. Right now the fragbox is on the ping pong table, in ITS box. I'm sending it back and getting a replacement. Gonna call them up and get an RMA number tomorrow, which is six days from delivery date. I have to do it within 7.

I'm not gonna deal with changing all kinds of settings to TRY and get it to work. A computer shouldn't be this F'ed up right out of the box. And being that Internet explorer has conflicts with a specific file, and being that there is NO trace of Microsoft Help on this computer, its clearly not a full install of windows XP. So its in its box, gonna be shipped back out tomorrow or tuesday, and that'll be the end of it.

[TAZTG]

Well, I appreciate your trying to help, but the NIC card was in slot 3, nothing is in slot 1.

I did check the BIOS settings that night when I got home from work. All was set at what you said it should be. Right now the fragbox is on the ping pong table, in ITS box. I'm sending it back and getting a replacement. Gonna call them up and get an RMA number tomorrow, which is six days from delivery date. I have to do it within 7.

I'm not gonna deal with changing all kinds of settings to TRY and get it to work. A computer shouldn't be this F'ed up right out of the box. And being that Internet explorer has conflicts with a specific file, and being that there is NO trace of Microsoft Help on this computer, its clearly not a full install of windows XP. So its in its box, gonna be shipped back out tomorrow or tuesday, and that'll be the end of it.

No Problem BC.. I agree you buy a PC thats a Complete system it should work.. It should be configured and ready to go. Tell them your a Gamer and you want it set up for gaming. They could atleast do that. It should be Get PC, Load Game, FRAG without problems. Damn hopefully they send a new and improved PC with no big hassles. Damn Damn, CYBERPower..

[Bonecrusher]

If they knew what was good for them, they'd send me a 3800+ and the Radeon X800. Just for the bull**** they put me thru :eek:

But anyway, it says they send out replacements before they receive the return as long as credit approves. Maybe this time I test and make sure it works before I wrap up and hide all the cables :rolleyes: I do have those pics for you btw. Before and after of the "sleeving" job. But now it doesn't matter because I took it all off. It looked pretty, but I'm sending it back to them in the same mess they sent to me.

Gonna call them tomorrow around lunch, and get this thing on the back of a truck.

[TAZTG]

Screw the AMD3800 they should give ya a FX53 & 6800Ultra..

[Bonecrusher]

I called, it rang 15 times, got redirected to tech support, was on hold for 12 minutes listening to some california radio station, a tech support dude picked up.

He tried to tell me to reinstall windows. I said I would if you sent me a windows cd. So, he said all I have to send back is the tower, I'm gonna leave a note inside stating the numerous problems I was having. Hopefully they'll fix it and send it back. It'll probably be a while tho.

[Bonecrusher]

Hey hey...somebody wanna do me a favor?
Buy me this :D

http://www.xpcgear.com/vigor500psu.html

[Bonecrusher]

I didn't get any pics of it with the lights on because the thing didn't run right...and these pics have terrible lighting...but I'll show them to you anyway.

1. A pointless picture of the front right out of the box.
2. Pop open the side panel to find a wire mess
3. What it looked like when I quit for the night.

[TAZTG]

Oh My God :eek: That was one hell of a mess when you opened it up. How in the hell do they install stuff and leave such a mess. Good job with the Blue Tape. Looks sweet BC. Now when you get it back you will have to rewrap all the wiring this time make sure it runs stable and actually works.. ;)

[Bonecrusher]

Yeah I'm gonna run it hard and make sure it works before I wrap it up. The only reason I wrapped it up first when I got it was because the monitor came late.

It only took about an hour. No biggy.

[TAZTG]

This is Weird.
I have my Mouse Speed set to real fast, I like it and zip all around Windows. When I start up TS my Mouse Speed slows down to a crawl. I wonder why this is happening. Must be sharing same something/file to cause this.

[Bonecrusher]

I think TS is still the buggeh. Sometimes when I mute speakers/headphones...and then take it off, it stays muted and i have to restart to get sound back.

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

I wonder if TS has anything to do with my 9pm ping problems... :con:

[TAZTG]

I wonder if TS has anything to do with my 9pm ping problems... :con:

It does take some bandwidth, how much I am unsure. There is a option in the settings to adjust how much you want to use.

[Bonecrusher]

*BC's PEESEE Update*

I called them around lunchtime, and was on the phone for over half an hour.

First, they didn't have an RA number under my name, so they didn't know I sent one. The tech guy eventually told me to try calling the repair department after he asked me all kinds of numbers and stuff.

I called them, they confirmed the shipping address since the RMA numbers got screwed up somewhere. The tech guy that is working on it is coming in this afternoon, and fixing a puter takes one to two weeks :rolleyes: . They said they should have an update on its status on wednesday or thursday.

So atleast it didn't get lost. And it only took them a week to start working on it :(

[Bonecrusher]

Ok...I gave them a ring around 1pm EST today. I was very happy to find out they knew where it was instead of telling me they didn't have it.

They said it was in testing now and should be ready to ship out on tuesday or wednesday. I can call on wednesday to check up on it and possibly get a tracking number on it.

So if all goes well, and it works when I get it back, I'll be fired up and kickin a little more ass.

[«BuA»Meat]

omg i better run :D

[Bonecrusher]

I just received an email saying that my Fragbox has departed from the FedEx facility in Pomona, CA.

Let's hope it works this time around eh?
*crosses fingers*
I would LOVE to come home from school one day to find my fragbox sitting on the front step. and it would be even better if it WORKED. Heres to hoping! :cheers:

[TAZTG]

Should be there Thurs. or Fri.! I hope it works also for all of our sakes.

[Bad-Target]

I bought from CyberpowerPC and never had a problem, funny huh. The wiring was all tied togetter in the middle of the case, but it was not as bad as your's was. Good Luck on the rebuild.

[Bonecrusher]

Ok... it departed from the Harrisburg sort facility at 3:20 am this morning. So it should atleast make itt o norristown today and here tomorrow.

[Bonecrusher]

Hey hey, looks like I might get it today. It left Norristown on the delivery truck at 7:45. Looking good :D

[Devastator]

aren't you supossed to be in school young man? :shake:

[Bonecrusher]

aren't you supossed to be in school young man? :shake:

I am in school you nub. Information Processing. And its so damn easy I get done 45 minutes early and have no choice but to surf the web and play solitaire. Thats High school life for you these days :)

Count off the minutes...I'll be home in 35.

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Hope ya get it today! :)

[Bonecrusher]

One problem leads to another.

Alright. I have 23 days left to activate windows and for some reason I'm not able to do it. I click activate windows over the internet now, it checks for connectivity and says it can't connect...even tho internet is CLEARLY working.

So...what the hell do i do?

[Bonecrusher]

Nevermind. That damn WinXP firewall was enabled. Went right thru when I disabled it. All seems to be well folks :) Gonna do a little customizing and installing. (Probably a day or two worth of work). I should be in action very soon. Got my drive in four partitions (thanks Lurky Boy).

Alright folks. Bedtime. See yas.

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Me comp is in the new tower now, thanks (and admiration) to my cousins Tom and Mike.
Sounds like a new machine, and thanks to a few systemboard upgrades (again, thanks to Tom and Mike), it's running nice and smoooooth. :)
Also got a few other minor problems tweaked out, and added my older 40g HDD.

Now I've got to go thru the arduous process of running thru the old drive and getting rid of what I don't need, and xfering what I do... so I can wipe the drive and use it for backups and storage (more than likely).

Can't wait to try it out on ya tomorrow morning, SS. ;)

Edit: And as soon as I can get things straightened out TAZ, I'll either send it up to ya, or rent a car and bring it meself. ;)

[TAZTG]

Got my drive in four partitions (thanks Lurky Boy).

Why 4 partitions?? I am glad its here and working.. You have tested this buy playing UT2K4 online??

Sounds like Lurk has moved intoa new Case. Now we have to get ICE on track. Damn, what am I going to do with that Sonata sitting in my closet.. I know I want to MOD the Side Panel, not sure what I what design to add. Guess that would depend on whom its getting modded for. My Dremel hasn't seen action in some time and my jigsaw has cobwebs on it.. Have to cut something up soon.. Come on ICE.. Take a Leap and give me a design for the side panel. I will tell ya if I can do it or not..

[Devastator]

Why 4 partitions??

Simple really, 1 for games, 1 for music, 1 for misc. stuff and 1 for porn :lol:

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

My partitions;
System (Windows installation, system proggies) 10gig
Games (UT2k3 & 2k4, Doom3, Fallout2... etc) 40gig
Apps (apps I've downloaded off the inet, MP3 storage) 20gig
Backup (this should be obvious) 10gig

With the extra 40 gig in there, I'll prolly create another 2 partitions... 20gig for MP3s and 20gig for who knows what. :D

[Bonecrusher]

Shes running REAL smooth.

My checklist for sunday...

Crack open the case...reseat the HD (It's not on the rails).
Make sure the floppy is in right (I think it moved).
Probably gonna giving wrapping the wires another go.
Install maps and bonus packs of such for ut.
Install frontpage
I'll need someone to help me set my volume for mic and stuff again.

I also got this cool wallpaper changer. Everytime i boot windows, it pulls another pic from a folder. Guess what...its a folder full of high-res heidi woooooooooot. Its pretty neat I like it.

And I just got a model of a hopped up avalanche. Big chromes, all white body, slammed. It looks neat. Sitting on top of my desk :)

Oki doki...gonna go transfer some more files. Talk to yas tomorrow.

[Bonecrusher]

Hey dev...for some reason CD-DA Xtractor isn't working...
I've ripped the ill nino cd on the vaio but now its giving me some kind of error on this machine. I have the blade encoder. When I go to rip it gives me an error and then doesnt rip. You have any idea whats up?

[Devastator]

Unfortunatly, no

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

This (http://www.cdex.n3.net/) is what I use to rip cds to mp3s.
Very nice lil tool. :)

[Iceburgs]

Boney, you have got to send me/post the link for your wallpaper program: I've been looking for a good one for ages.

Lurk, I used to use CDex on my old PII 233 Mhz to play CDs. Back then it didn't have the capability of encoding, though. If I read the notes right, all you need is an encoder .dll and it will do it for you?

[Bonecrusher]

Thanks lurk..I'll try it out then.
Ice, I'll send it to you when I plug my computer back in. Right now I got the side panel off.

I reseated the HD, turns out one of the rails broke off during shipping (Just a guess). The floppy drive was loose but its all good now. I started wrapping wires again.

I gotta work today so I won't be able to finish...but it should be ready for practice tomorrow :)

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

Lurk, I used to use CDex on my old PII 233 Mhz to play CDs. Back then it didn't have the capability of encoding, though. If I read the notes right, all you need is an encoder .dll and it will do it for you?


Used it for about 3 years, actually... and it's never required a .dll that I'm aware of.
It's made as a freeware stand alone proggy, and you can rip from cd to wav or mp3, mp3 to wav or standard cd format, or wav to either.
With my P4 it takes about 5-7 minutes to rip an entire cd... if that long.

[Bonecrusher]

Lurk...that ones not working either.
It seemed like it ripped the tracks...the different files appeared, I played them and there is no sound. Its just a low fuzzy sound. But it is the length and bitrate of the track.

Grrrrr.

[«BuA»Lurker_71]

The only thing I can think of to test this out, is to send you an MP3 and see if it has the same problems as your ripped mp3s.
I'm just wondering if I have an MP3 small enough...

[Iceburgs]

Sounds to me like your CD-ROM isn't hooked up right. Either that or you have a screwed up driver. Let me ask you this: are you using your CD-ROM or your burner drive to do the ripping? Finally, the only other thing to check out is the sound card, its connections and its drivers. Do you have this problem with ALL music?

[Bonecrusher]

I'm using my cd-rom drive.
All drivers are up to date and I can play mp3's that I brought over from the vaio.

[Iceburgs]

OK, so it's not a sound card/device issue. That's good. Hmm, maybe you have a broken CD-ROM drive? It could be the lense or some other internal thing. Have you tried using your burning drive to rip/encode? Oh, another thing: if you are running SP2 that could be the cause. Why? I don't know. It just seems to screw everything up anyway. :P

Oh, and where's that wallpaper proggie?

[Iceburgs]

WALLPAPER PROGGIE!!!!! ME WANTS! :)

[Bonecrusher]

Well Ice...I thought it was good. But the thing is, it has an icon in the bar by the clock...and it kept giving me errors. It worked great for a day or two...but then it wasn't working right. I'll try to find another...or make one myself. I'll let you know.

[Bonecrusher]

Hey hey...my 120mm Blue LED fan should be coming today. I wonder what kind of problems I'll run into this time. :rolleyes:

[Bonecrusher]

Hey taz...what are possible problems you can have with big fans?
Because I booted my machine when I installed it and the startup screen first said overclocking failed press F2 to go back to defaults. I did that.

Then I rebooted again and it said CPU fan error press f1 to resume.
What do you think is up?

[Bonecrusher]

Nevermind I figured it out.

By doing some google searching and looking around...I found out that the CPU fan failed message was coming up because my heatsink isn't plugged into the mobo.

It was...but being that my fan controller had a spot for it that automatically adjusts speed according to the heat...I put it in there. Then I went into the BIOS and turned off the Wait for F1 if error thing.

Then I had the problem of that POST lady saying that my CPU fan failed. So I turned her off too. All better now.

I just hope the 120mm fan won't take away from the vid card as they are using the same power cable from the PSU.

Right now all is well :)

EDIT: 1 120mm Exhaust fan...and three 80mm intake fans.

I was having a problem with taking the 80mm off the back and putting it next to the HD. Only problem was...HD got in the way. After staring at it for a few minutes I realized I could move the HD up higher in the cage and make room for the fan :) I'm proud of myself now woot :eek: I've only been working on this bastich since 9:30...its now 12:10. Time for bed.

[TAZTG]

This was posted by ICE in another thread..


Well, I got the game up and running and it sure do look pretty. I am only having sound and mic issues. For some reason the sound sucks. I don't know if this is the onboard sound device or just old drivers. And again, for some reason my mic broadcasts to TS very quietly. I can't quite figure it out. Taz, do you have any suggestions, seeing as you have the same mobo?


Make sure you load the Software for the Onboard Sound. I don't use the intergrated sound but I think Boney does. He had some minor problems when first sitting it up. I know you need to load the software, and then configure everything from the software. Glad you got everything back up. Once you get everything up and tweaked, your RIG is going to be SWEET!!

BTW: I purchased a new keyboard, check it out.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=23-175-101&depa=0

Its very nice but it will take a few days to get use to how its layed out. The 0 Ins key is a little further away then the MS Media keyboard. I noticed I missed a few jumps last nite. Have to train finger and you know how hard it is to train OLD Things to do NEW Things.. LOL..

[Bonecrusher]

There is a program that needs to be running in the background when using the on-board sound. I think its called audiodeck or something. I'll let you know when I get home.

[«BuA»Meat]

BTW: I purchased a new keyboard, check it out.




Nice ! Watch out the soda now :lol:

[_Hawk_]

Nice keyboard. I saw that keyboard in the December PC Gamer mag, listed as a good gift for a gamer. :)

[Iceburgs]

As far as I can tell, the realtek al c850 audio driver (realtek ac'97 audio for via driver) is what is being used, which I loaded from the mobo driver disc. I doanloaded a driver update from the Asus website, but the files in the package are identical, so that can't be it either. BC, what did you do to get it to work right?

I am also still trying to figure out the microphone thing, which I may have fixed. Guess we will see tomorrow. :)

[«BuA»Meat]

ice check out if you have a 10 db boost in your settings ! it might be only that.

[TAZTG]

ICE, its not the drivers. Its the Application which you should have installed.

Its called RealTEC ALC850, 5-12 in the Manual explains it all..

[«BuA»Meat]

Something new with GR servers. My ping is awful this week and i'm pretty sure i'ts not my connection. i used to ping 24 now i run over 100 ms. Then i try the UDA GR server same thing. I used to ping around 40-50 ms, now it's 140 ms .

Something wrong or what ?

Regular server in VA ping normal 56 ms.

[Bonecrusher]

Dunno. Mine is still between 40 and 50. *shrug*

[TAZTG]

I had good pings on the GR servers. I know the OSG VA server was acting up again tonite. It was weird, earlier today all was fine. Then after 6 it went to hell. Now it seems stable again. One of the Hops in DC is screwing up..

[Iceburgs]

Hey guys. I am having issues with my front USB ports. For some reason, windows won't recognize devices I plug into them if they don't have software installed for the device. (I think. So far, the only thing that works on them is my Gravis Gamepad Pro joystick, and I had to install the Gravis software for it to be recognized.) Any ideas? Taz, you have the same mobo and case as I do, do/did you have the same problem?

[TAZTG]

No Idea, I have no problem with USB Devices be detected. I have a Lian Li Case working just fine..

[Bonecrusher]

Well Ice...chances are those front USB ports have to have cables running into the mobo somewhere. Mine in particular are pretty much in the middle/bottom part of the mobo. Its all these seperate little black connectors. Same as the front audio ports plug into the lower left corner of the mobo. Stupid looking little plugs, maybe you don't have them all plugged in right?

[TAZTG]

If they wasn't plugged in right then his Gravis wouldn't work. I think the Drivers for the USB need to be loaded. Not sure why they don't..

[Iceburgs]

Taz is correct. The USB joystick wouldn't work if they weren't plugged in right. I even tried unplugging the joystick and inserting the USB plug there. Maybe it is something in the Bios allowing for plug and play in the front USB ports....

[TAZTG]

When you was Tweaking Wndows did you turn off or disable something you shouldn't have? It doesn't sound like a hardware problem. Windows isn't detecting when you plug something in and no Notice Popping Up Saying it detected Yada Yada. OK ICE what did you turn off?? :lol: