What a great place we live in

[The_Pikeman]

Yes now the people that teach our kids are bailing out the schools becuase the goverment dosent seem to think that funding schools is important. And lets be honest whos supprised they all get paid so much they have several expensive cars, fly first class (for free) and send their kids to privet schools. Yep a classless soceity is what we live in :rolleyes:

http://education.guardian.co.uk/schoolfunding/story/0,13292,988067,00.html




Teachers at a school in Leicestershire are so concerned about the funding crisis that they are dipping into their own pockets to bail out their budget

The primary school is currently facing a £38,000 deficit for the school year and several support staff will have their contracts terminated from the end of this term. They have already cut funding allocated for staff training, supply cover and library books.


You gotta love the goverment.
-How.

[TheShiningWizard]

This is all Dubya's fault :p

My old high school had a funding problem for a while, but the voters finally allocated some cash their way. When I went there (Renton High, for Washington residents) there weren't even lights in the halls. You practically needed a flashlight to find your way around during dark winter mornings. The water also had a brown tint, thanks to rust.

Oh yeah, and half of the teachers quit after I left.

[Lt.Col.BoyHitsCar]

so its bush's fault that the British school system is underfunded?

heh, sorry but i felt the need to point out that the article isnt bout the states. but i sorta understand your remarks... ;)

[TheShiningWizard]

My initial comment was intended to be sarcastic.
Though I suppose they have a tag for that, now.
...I guess that wasn't actually sarcasm, but.. meh. :p

[EtherRex]

My mothers a deputy head teacher in one of the most deprived areas ive ever seen. They have a government inspection this week. One of the inspectors asked her to show him the kids who have special needs in her class. She told him it would be far quicker for her to introduce him to the two (out of thirty!) who dont.....

These inspectors seem to think that kids that havent gone to nursery, have to endure violent and abusive home lives and are in most cases under observation from social services should make the same progress as middle class kids who have every advantage. Madness.

[BobTheFearlessFish]

etherrex. which school is that?

[EtherRex]

Wellesly (sp?) first school in lovely Norwich City. Thats the area of the country I grew up in.

[BobTheFearlessFish]

dont know it. i probably would if it was in london. theyve ****ed us over royally here in lovely hackney too.

there were two mixed secondary schools in hackney (the rest were single sex). they decided one of them needed more funcding so that it could become good enought to get the special status and funding of a specialist arts and media school (how ****ed is that? good schools get more funding). but they could get no more funding from the government. instead they lifted funding from one school to fund the other. the school i went to is now a very good school (aside from the fact that my brother is not allowed to study a combination of history and geography. because so much emphasis is placed on arts). the other school is closing down. of course half the stuidents from that school or moving to the other one. so there is a kind of poetic justice.

[EtherRex]

Yep, the current school situation is insanity. Over the last ten years they have consistently reduced individual funding for schools. The head teachers now have to function as accountants as well as teachers and social workers. I believe the number of graduate teachers is still dropping also. After all, who wants to work in a job with ****ty pay, little recognition, long hours and a mountain of paper-work?

IMO, whats needed in schools is a massive increase in pay levels to attract more young professionals, a huge increase in funding for materials and training and a radical change to the use of discipline in schools.

Fact. The only reason I listened to my teachers at school was because they shouted very ****ing loudly, embarrased you in front of the class and occasionally roughed you up.

I dont resent that at all. Kids dont get enough discipline in schools these days.


As for your brother not being allowed to take the subjects he wants, that just plain sucks. Similarly I was left with a choice between Home Economics and Religious Education at GCSE because of the way the choices were split up. Nothing liek allowing you to maximise your potential eh?

[MetalMickey]

Middle class white people who make up the voting block arent too keen on paying high taxes in order to pay for education. Labour knows this, so it dropped its socialist/universalist ideology, and moved into tory territory to secure votes. Welcome to the consequences.

[-Snakebite-]

Yeah because our tax isnt high enough already. We get taxed when we get paid, taxed when we spend, taxed when we save.
Just dont get me started on the rail network asking for 54 billion of the public money for the next 10 years (paid for in part by tax, the rest by the people who are currently getting screwed over by the service).

[BobTheFearlessFish]

i hate this new system of specialist schools. the only school near here that my neighbours can get into is a specialist school in science and technology. what do you do if you like arts? well you cant get into the other schools because of teh way that places are handed out (on basis of distance from teh school). but when you get there you most lilelyt wont be able to take the subjects you want. my brother is having the same thing except he is being forced to study arts.

[Crazy_Ivan]

this sounds awfully familiar to me...

it's nearly that bad in holland:
Public schools are always complaining about the lack of funds, and aren't allowed to rise the fees because of accesibility... religion-linked schools are somewhat better, because they sometimes can get funding from the religious group they belong to, but only get money if they follow the standards (maximum percentage of people with other religion than the official one of the school, and such)

[EtherRex]

Id move to another country if there was one that was any 'ucking different. Unfortunately its the same all over.
:(

[spm1138]

Middle class white people who make up the voting block arent too keen on paying high taxes in order to pay for education. Labour knows this, so it dropped its socialist/universalist ideology, and moved into tory territory to secure votes. Welcome to the consequences.


Yeah, democracy sucks.

edit: </SARCASM>