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Keiichi
28th Jun 2003, 12:09 AM
Anybody seen it? It looks like what the Resident Evil movie should have been. I'm thinking about going out tomorrow or Sunday with a few of my buds.

-Keiichi

TheShiningWizard
28th Jun 2003, 12:10 AM
Anybody seen it?
Nope.

Soulja
28th Jun 2003, 12:25 AM
Seems freaky...

Saladin
28th Jun 2003, 12:40 AM
i ****ing saw it tonight...and oh man, that was ****ing wierd...you britts freak me out now.

people eating people, 9 brit soldiers trying to gangbang a woman and a 13yo girl...that **** was ****ed up....

Soulja
28th Jun 2003, 12:41 AM
lol!

Eliwar
28th Jun 2003, 12:46 AM
my friend got an advanced screening of it about two weeks ago, he said is was f'ing great. I, myself haven't seen it though.

Dank
28th Jun 2003, 12:52 AM
I want to see it....badly.

<P^R>Imperial
28th Jun 2003, 01:51 AM
I didnt think it was that great from the commercials, but after reading the reviews it sounds awesome.

Sweep
28th Jun 2003, 02:56 AM
I thought it sucked. None of the main characters used a gun. Best they could come up with to do to highly infectious zombies is beat them with a bat or machete, etc? Good luck not getting infected doing that... Lame. Only gunplay is by some rogue military guys, and there isn't much at that. Very few zombies killed, big letdown to me personally because that is what I wanted to see. Your mileage may vary...

Approx
28th Jun 2003, 03:15 AM
I wanted to see it tonight, and even though the theatre around here had a big ol' poster in the middle of the freaking lobby advertising this movie with a release date of today, they decided not to run it until next week...maybe.

Sardaukar
28th Jun 2003, 03:17 AM
Well, firearms are illegal in the UK

das_ben
28th Jun 2003, 03:36 AM
Haven't seen it yet, but heard very differing opinions about the movie. Some people loved it, one horror film buff wasn't too impressed though.

Freon
28th Jun 2003, 03:47 AM
i've heard the end sucks :hmm:

Sardaukar
28th Jun 2003, 04:03 AM
I get to see Hulk today :X

spm1138
28th Jun 2003, 05:03 AM
Many bad reviews, so I didn't bother.

MP_Lord_Kee
28th Jun 2003, 06:29 AM
I saw it a few weeks back, and I enjoyed it. I'd score 28 days later more or less the same as Dog Soldiers. More gun action in the later thou :)

//Kee

MetalMickey
28th Jun 2003, 06:46 AM
Its superb. ****ing superb. Smoke a fat joint before you see it.

I thought it sucked. None of the main characters used a gun.

Its set in England. Where would they get a gun in those circumstances?

Olethros
28th Jun 2003, 07:15 AM
I thought it was OK. Not great, but at least better than Dog Soldiers.

A_Rimmerlister
28th Jun 2003, 07:16 AM
I'd wanted to see it when it was possible, I missed the movie because I waited just 1 week.

Night of the Living Dead .... hasn't that many guns either and that's set it the USA.
I think it's pretty logical that there won't be that much shooting (who's going to make more ammo anyway ?) ... unless you think that every idiot owns a gun and enough ammo to last a lifetime.

sandworm
28th Jun 2003, 07:48 AM
I preferred this movie over Resident Evil if for the simple reason that I didn't find the gun fights as frustrating and it just felt more like what a zombie survival ordeal should be like. There is some suspension of disbelief involved in some scenes, but at least it was no more than RE.

The base defense scene was pretty much everything I had been wanting from a small group trying to hold their position from a countryside full of diseased. I would have expected a tad more fire control on the part of the soldiers, but I guess it's understandable when one drop of blood in the wrong place would basically mean game over.

While I understand why some people would say the ending sucked, I don't find it incongruous with the overall feel of the film. Hell, quite a few in the audience, including myself, thought that the end was where they smashed into the barrier, killing themselves and that was that. Now how's that for a smack you over the head film.

Ice
28th Jun 2003, 07:52 AM
I want to see it....badly.



You just want to see it for the 13 year old seen :)

melagne
28th Jun 2003, 07:55 AM
I saw 28 days later a couple of weeks ago when i was on exchange in germany instead of my native australia - thought it was a pretty cool movie even though i didnt exactly catch all the subtleties of the language.. heh. lucky there wasnt too much dialog. ;-)

i enjoyed the fact that there wasnt much gunplay. i mean, i have barely seen a freakin gun in my entire life, living in australia. they dont just lie around everywhere ALL over the world. we had a bit of a clampdown in aus a few years back after a sad incident involving one crazy guy with a semi-auto rifle and 35 innocent people, not counting the wounded.

//ranting ...anyway...

but the bit with the molotov's was pretty stylish imho. it was a nice change to have superhumanly-fast-moving not-yet-dead 'zombies' for a change as well.

Spier
28th Jun 2003, 10:26 AM
It's not very Hollywoodish(apart from the end..), which is a good enough reason for me to like it.

Saladin
28th Jun 2003, 11:48 AM
Night of the Living Dead .... hasn't that many guns either and that's set it the USA.
I think it's pretty logical that there won't be that much shooting (who's going to make more ammo anyway ?) ... unless you think that every idiot owns a gun and enough ammo to last a lifetime.

Well, come to the south.....-

NotBillMurray
28th Jun 2003, 12:47 PM
Many bad reviews, so I didn't bother.

Couldn't be more wrong (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/28DaysLater-1123236/). Probably one of the best reviewed films so far this year.

I recommend it to anyone who wants to see a good tension filled horror film with characters you care about.

phatcat
28th Jun 2003, 01:36 PM
You just want to see it for the 13 year old seen :)

dude... weak :eek:

DallasStarsRule
28th Jun 2003, 02:45 PM
i ****ing saw it tonight...and oh man, that was ****ing wierd...you britts freak me out now.

people eating people, 9 brit soldiers trying to gangbang a woman and a 13yo girl...that **** was ****ed up....



heyho! now i gotta see it lol

MadWoffen
28th Jun 2003, 03:12 PM
It's only out now ?

Saw it in March as opening movie of the BIFFF (www.bifff.org), the festival was opened by the director.

Let's say I was disapointed by some logical flaws in the movie...and the end. Otherwise, not a bad movie and some great scenes.

Now for people comparing it with Dog Soldiers.... :o

You're comparing a movie that takes himself seriously (28d) with one who never ment to be serious. Sorry but your comparison is wrong.


I wrote it in irc and on the vega forum (in french) about the movies interesting to see that year (we had lots of world premieres).

Amongst them and randomly coz I don't have much time: Dead End (Prize of the Public Jury - which I'm part of - and you really must look for it, the real classical horror movie à la Twilight Zone), Aragami, Interstate 60 (awesome movie with Gary Oldman), Cypher/The Company Man (I think they are still looking how they will call it, with Lucy Liu - from the director of teh first Cube), Bubba Ho Tep (just for the fun, really, Elvis Presley in a remote home for elderly meets Kennedy who's rest of brains where transferred in the body of a black man and together they chase, in wheelchairs, a mummy hungry of souls :D ), May (disturbing), Inside Story (very frsh concept of nice and romantical "SF" movie from Australia), Second Name (a disturbing thriller about an Abrahamit sect), The Invisible (Swedish "ghost" movie with an intersting approach), Darkness (a must see about the Absolute Evil), Killing Words (one room, 2 actors, the serial killer and his next victim and I got scotched on that thriller, a must see for all who loves movies about the pshyche of a killer, please please, try to see it in original language, spanish), Ju-On/The Grudge (from the scenarist of The Ring), Malefique (French horror movie - for once a good one with Dead End, about 3 prisonners - a muscled gay/travestite, his psychotic "puppet" and...a white collar - and a black magic book) and A tree of Palme (the only manga this year but a very poetic one with beatifull scenes, a sort of Pinocchio on another planet). These are the movies that marked me most amongst the +/- 60 I saw this year. You can check details about all these movies on the bifff database, here: http://www.bifff.org/en/archive/index.php

Just type in the name.

Amongst others movies to see: My Little Eye (when snuff movie meets Big Brother), The Eye (nice elements in it), The Gathering (ok, this is just because there is Christina Ricci in it), Volcano High (if you like asian manga style fightings, a high school for "talented" fighters - personally I got bored after the first hour of fighting but if you're a fan of early Dragon Ball Z, go for it), The Princess Blade (best asian movie with Aragami & The Grudge IMO), House of 1000 corpses (from Rob Zombi, we got a unnedited version of it, forbidden to less than 17 years old, I hope you don't get the edited version since we were told there was a struggle between Rob and distributors about it, for those who love movies à la Texas Chainsaw Massacre), Wishmaster 4 (better than the 2nd and 3rd...well, tha's all about it, maybe not that worth seeing it), Cabin Fever (interesting first work about biohazard - and for once with no military involved, thank God), DeathWatch (an horror movie in WW1 trenches, interesting), Alive (long but good to see it, another asian movie), Beyond ReAnimator or Re-Animator 2 (where is my pizza).

Avoid 2009 Lost Memories (the South Korean blockbuster and most expensive Korean movie), The Cube 2: HyperCube, It's all about love (from the Festen director and with Sean Penn, a movie that try to be "intellectual" and missed it) and some others I already forgot.

MadWoffen
28th Jun 2003, 03:16 PM
Ooops, I forgot, if you like Z horror kind of movies, filmed by a bunch of friends with absolute no moral: Zombie Plague: Mutant Zone, an Argentinian movie about...zombies. With some hilarious scenes like that zombie using his guts and his anal sphincter as sprinkler to agress living ones. :lol:

Keiichi
28th Jun 2003, 08:37 PM
Well, firearms are illegal in the UK

You see, that's why America is superior. In the event of a zombie outbreak, we'd have plenty of guns lying around to deal with them. It's called thinking ahead... :p

-Keiichi

geogob
29th Jun 2003, 12:12 AM
Ok... i'm gonna rape someone with a bayonette...
The fuggin movie isn't even released in english here! WTF stupid ****... like a french translation on an english movie will do the job...



bleh.


sorry. had to say it.


translations are gei. period.



but it was good! A lot of things are strange and not very original, but it's a zombie movie after all.

Sweep
29th Jun 2003, 03:12 AM
I would think there would be defeated military units sprinkled around, with some weapons left in their overrun positions, etc, if the whole country basically fell in the plague (assuming some kind of Martial Law would be implemented in the UK in this situation for containment, etc.)

Not everything is illegal in the UK either is it? You should have some shotguns and some gun clubs that have alot of guns stored there unless I'm mistaken. That would be my first priority if I were in a situation like that, secure something, anything in the way of a firearm(s). I mean seriously, do you think you're going to ward off zombies with a baseball bat effectively without getting infected? For how long do you expect that to work exactly? That's just plain lame, these guys make no attempts to come up with improvised weapons or anything, they basically didn't use molotovs or similar for much of anything. I'd be a walking molotov if I could get no firearms of any kind. Having to rely on hand to hand combat with infectious zombies should be about as good as giving up for crying out loud.

And not that they absolutely had to have guns either, they could have come up with something interesting to form a defense with, but they come up with jack freakin squat. Baseball bat, what a cop out. The short military stuff at the end started to get really cool, and then poof. Guess you have to watch it. Small point to give a poor review on really, but that kind of crap just bothers me. At least this movie tried to do a zombie story seriously without being super cheesy, I'll give it that. Just wasn't quite what I was looking for so it was kinda ruined for me...

I think it's pretty logical that there won't be that much shooting (who's going to make more ammo anyway ?) ... unless you think that every idiot owns a gun and enough ammo to last a lifetime.

Alot of gun enthusiats reload their own ammunition. Wouldn't be a big deal at all, at least for someone over here in the land of the free, guess it's not commonplace over there in Europe. Home reloading equipment and supplies are common here. I would still think you could get the equipment in a end of the world situation in Europe, gotta be reloaders with equipment over there somewhere. Would be pretty key to your longterm survival to acquire that stuff in a situation like this. Plenty of gun owners have enough ammo to last awhile, here at least, I'm fairly broke and I have around 3000rnds for my main two rifles for crying out loud (buying in bulk is cheaper). Unlike in most movies if you own a gun, you probably own alot more than one 20 rnd box of ammo for it....


I can't believe most of the favorable reviews have this pegged as "scary". Ummm, nothing new or even remotely scary here, the fast zombies startle you every once in awhile but every "horror" movie in the past 3 decades has had a few startling scenes...

*BTW, was this a low budget independent film over there? Because the sound and production value and stuff sucked. Like some fairly low budget independent straight to video movie from over here or something. Not quite that bad but close...


More power to you if you liked this movie though, just my two cents.

A_Rimmerlister
29th Jun 2003, 12:20 PM
Zombies only need brains ... if they have to rely on that as a food-source in america they'd starve pretty fast. So who needs guns anyway ? ;)

Then again ... who knows what kind of weird chemical substances the Germans and Belgians transport through here ...
Or whatever the French and/or Basf & co decide to 'accidentaly' dump into the river ...

// Sweep :
Your 'low-budget' movies are our 'multi-million dollar' blockbusters ...
Or at least the average budget for the average Dutch movie wouldn't last 1 minute in the USA/Hollywood.

I don't expect the situation in the rest of Europe to be that much different (altough the BBC does tend to have some pretty high-quality tv-series & documentaries).

MadWoffen
29th Jun 2003, 04:31 PM
You see, that's why America is superior. In the event of a zombie outbreak, we'd have plenty of guns lying around to deal with them. It's called thinking ahead... :p

-Keiichi


Or more intelligent zombies have plenty of guns to deal with living ones, that's a 2 sided blade story...altough anyone knows there is nothing better than a good spiked club against them. :D

MetalMickey
29th Jun 2003, 07:40 PM
I mean seriously, do you think you're going to ward off zombies with a baseball bat effectively without getting infected? For how long do you expect that to work exactly? That's just plain lame, these guys make no attempts to come up with improvised weapons or anything, they basically didn't use molotovs or similar for much of anything.

Lemme see, the characters in this movie were a fat Irish guy that lived on a council estate, a small girl, a guy who just came out of a coma and another, less small, girl. Not exactly gung-ho weapons fanatics.

Perhaps they should have cast vin diesel, arnie and stallone types instead. :rolleyes: They coulda thrown in an hour of car chases and explosions for you too. :)

The fact that they had no weapons made them vunerable, which made it scary....


More power to you if you liked this movie though, just my two cents.

Perhaps you should stick to hollywood.

Cap'n Beeb
29th Jun 2003, 08:22 PM
I'd just like to slip in here and state:

Dog Soldiers kicks ass.

Dank
29th Jun 2003, 08:28 PM
Haha, yes, Dog Soldiers does indeed kick ass.

OICW
29th Jun 2003, 09:24 PM
MM- ok, so from I understand, they weren't weapon fanatics...but would you want to fight off zombies with a melee weapon only, considering that only one drop of blood is needed to infect you? I'd try and fight the zombies off as far out away possible, and besides, I think most people, weapon freaks or not, know how to make a molotov ;)

GNAT
29th Jun 2003, 09:25 PM
28 days later was great. Thank god for the lack of hollywood polish.

MadWoffen
30th Jun 2003, 05:54 AM
Those who liked Dog Soldiers will love Dead End (http://www.bifff.org/en/archive/film1.php?id=65), believe me. Completely different story but there is this cynical bloody humor. I forgot to mention that aside the Public Prize it also won the European Prize, The Melies.

Edit: Dead End is in english. It's a French directed movie but an US production with an US casting.

To be complete about the festival: Cypher/The Company Man won the Grand Prize (Golden Raven), May won a Silver Raven for the main actress interpretation and Aragami won the other Silver Raven for the film direction.




@MM: Stating the obvious but apparently some people only understand something when explained like you did. Sad, sad,...

28 Days could have been a perfect movie with a different end and if the logical flaws were corrected.



Personally, I would have prefered an end like: the jet notice the survivors on a first passage, it comes back. The survivors gather to salute the jet...a bomb is dropped.


About the logical flaws I can remember about, the most obvious:

If we consider that the UK island is on quarantine, we assume normal life is going on in the rest of the world. In this case, it is not normal that the father can't receive anything on his AM radio receiver... from Brussels, I receive stations from all Europe in AM.

Transatlantic flights from Europe to the USA happens an hundred time per day, most of them go across UK, I can't believe professional soldiers can't see them in the sky while the hero spotted it. Not to mention it makes a lot of noise, generally covered by day living noises in a city or even in farmland but here everything is quiet so it's impossible to miss a plane in these conditions.

The hero, a simple delivery man, turns himself on a professional killer in a few hours, skilled enough to kill professional soldiers with his bare hands on their own terrain... Rrrrrright....

The heroes complain about having only sweets and chocolates to eat. Don't you have canned food in UK ? :con:

There were some others minor stuff like why use an old taxi cab when you can just pick-up a monster off road car in any garage in London, etc,... well, let's say the heroes weren't that intelligent on some fields of surviving.

We can also assume the rest of the world is contaminated but I still wonder how since the contamination occurs in few seconds. So we can forget planes and a full boat would have been contaminated before leaving the dock... If the virus contamination was longer, we could have imagined this and the end would have been more logical (the last survivors of this region being in the Orkney Islands military bases).
those are some of the reasons I was a bit disapointed by the movie yet I like the mood of it.

GNAT
30th Jun 2003, 07:32 AM
lol, I actually thought for a second they were going to get napalmed or blown to hell.

You have a point with the am radio, I'll offer a few alternatives on the rest of your complaints.

Transatlantic Flights would most likely be detoured over the quarantine area, just as they are other high security zones. The scout plane being the only one that regularly flys over.

As for the canned food, they were living in a vending box, full of candy and soft drinks. I can only assume that they were too scared to go into a dark grocery store and get canned food. I must say, I would not like to go inside any building.

The professional killer part.. there are two ways to look at this. One would be that his transformation was no more a stretch than most normal hero-like movies. Like a normal cop ends up taking on an army or some crazy terrorists. The other option would be primal instinct, with a mix of anger and controlled rage. Thats what they were trying to embody. The mans transformation was gradual enough... the real fight begun when he knew he had to save the girls from the soldiers, but the entire movie he has been progressing to that level.

I had questions about the car thing as well.. Assuming they were not professional car theives you could get a better one, but you'd have to go around looking for keys in a car, with gas.. one time usage, then hope you had another car with the keys in it when you ran out of gas in the previous one. Unless of course you found a gas truck, your car and fuel resources would be pretty limited.

I had more of a problem with a taxi that was able to run over a pile of cars than I had with your 'any car' concern.

As for the contamination, any boat or airplane with infected would most likely not make it to the mainland without a crash or change of course. The pilot/captain of the ship would definately be infected and as we know, once infected they aren't smart enough to do anything except kill.
Its unlikely a bird would be caught by someone who was contaminated, but could a fish cause contamination in the water? Thats the only way I see it getting anywhere off the island.

I was very happy with the movie, but I'm so used to hollywood bullsh1t that anything without their lovely spin will make me happy.

OICW
30th Jun 2003, 07:42 AM
Off-topic alert: GNAT, for me, the MUF forums aren't working, yet they worked fine for me when I checked them from another computer a few days ago...is it my computer that's screwing up, or have they gone down recently? Thanks.

Back on topic: personally, this idea of an infection taking seconds sounds silly, I like to have at least some plausible things in my movies thank you very much ;)

GNAT
30th Jun 2003, 07:47 AM
http://www.teammuf.com/forum/ They're up for me :/ dunno why you can't get to them.

As for the infection, think of it like drugs... Once cocaine enters the blood stream the effects are nearly instant, or seconds away. If its something that gets in your blood it can hit your brain very quickly.

NotBillMurray
30th Jun 2003, 08:49 AM
On some of your points:
They mentioned specifically that signs of infection were reported in New York prior to the ceasing of communication. I would say that infected could reach the mainland through the chunnel. About the only way I could imagine them getting across the ocean is if one of the apes hid on a cargo ship. Another scenario I could think of was that the American CDC was brought in to examine the virus, so an infected was transported to America. Then, through some circumstances, he escaped.

Just remember that there is no definitive proof that England was quarantined. They could just as well be in the same boat elsewhere, but since the infected had finally fun out of steam, some other military outpost began overflights in search of survivors.

Also, not many people know how to pick locks or hotwire cars. They took what they could readily get their hands on.

MadWoffen
30th Jun 2003, 09:51 AM
@Monk: IIRC, he talked about rumors of it so we don't really know if the world is contaminated or not. Add to this his scenario with contaminated people in plane was kinda burlesque and probably came from crazy medias. And the plane in the sky looks more like a civilian one than a scout one.

@GNAT: I agree for the part of the man finding his primitive tribal instinct to save his females but it was a bit exagerated considering the soldiers were in their terrain and armed.

For the food: they don't dare to enter a grocery (some are very open like supermarket where it would be easy to spot anyone) but they take refuge in an underground vendor box ? Hmmm, I would be more afraid to enter the underground if you ask me...


For the cars: who need to be a professional car thief to take a set of key in a professional garage or car sales shop ? I know very well where my garagist hold the keys of my pick-up when I go there for maintenance as well as the key of the new cars in expositions. And most of car shops are in well spaced/clear spaces. For the gas, there are big deposits/stocks a bit everywhere with gas trucks ready to deserve the stations. It would be easy to pick up gas with no guards around or even to just salvage gas from others cars, just use a crow bar to open the tank.

As for contamination spreading: I don't believe a virus could survive in sea altough it showed itself to be a tough one suviving in dead bodies for quite a time. But the birds got my vote. Assuming the virus could survive in the bird organism and on his feces, the ravens eating the dead corpses could very quickly contaminate all the chain food and mainland Europe. Same for mosquitos, flies, etc,... But I think on this point that the virus only infects mammals otherwise scavenging birds would have been crazy, attacking humans as well...but the scenario of chain food contamination remains valid in case of a very tough virus, you just need a fox to eat a bird or some other small mammal eating an insect that just scavanged bird's feces.



Edited at the end about contamination

GNAT
30th Jun 2003, 09:54 AM
I would say being that they were quarantined by the rest of the world, the chunnel would have most likely been destroyed or HEAVILY guarded against the spread of infection. This can only be assumed though. The infected in NewYork(I missed this part) could have happened a number of ways, but suffice it to say its a perfect segue to a sequal in Manhatten and another quarantine island situation. I personally wouldn't want a sequal.

The movie left alot to be assumed, but I'm ok with that. I don't need a movie to tell me every little detail as if I were unable to think for myself. This is one of the things that plagues so many blockbuster movies. The movie did not tell where the virus came from, how they actually caught the original infected, or if there was more out there un-caught. Lots of questions, but the movie as a whole was great in my eyes. I tend to think movies don't have to be wrapped up in a nice know it all package to be good. Everything doesn't have to have a happy ending, and everything doesn't have to be handed to me on a silver platter.

MadWoffen
30th Jun 2003, 01:21 PM
The movie left alot to be assumed, but I'm ok with that. I don't need a movie to tell me every little detail as if I were unable to think for myself. This is one of the things that plagues so many blockbuster movies. The movie did not tell where the virus came from, how they actually caught the original infected, or if there was more out there un-caught. Lots of questions, but the movie as a whole was great in my eyes. I tend to think movies don't have to be wrapped up in a nice know it all package to be good. Everything doesn't have to have a happy ending, and everything doesn't have to be handed to me on a silver platter.


I cannot agree more, I just find sad that some illogical elements ruins a bit the story. I can accept some illogism in some situations like movies with different interpretations or time paradox but still retains some illogism or form of, but these are very particular like Jacob's Ladder. In 28 Days, the director could have replaced some useless/illogical scene quite easely IMO or change them a bit to suit better the background.

Like replacing the civil plane by a military one or putting more the accent on hygienic problems rather than glucose overdose, just little points...

Aside that, it was a good watch but 28 Days didn't enter in my top 3 picks for which the 100 members of the public jury cast their vote (we give 3 points to our first pick, 2 points to second, etc).

GNAT
30th Jun 2003, 01:56 PM
Well I certainly didn't put it in my top 3, but I liked the movie...

MadWoffen
30th Jun 2003, 02:24 PM
Errr... I was talking about the +/-60 movies I saw in the festival in March, not an all time period.

www.bifff.org

Liquid Night
30th Jun 2003, 03:00 PM
I think it's a quality film. Cillian Murphy is my cousin though so I am kind of biased.

MadWoffen
30th Jun 2003, 07:44 PM
Forgot to say, for those who like fantasy movie and speak french, the site of Patrick, another Public jury member: www.bifffiens.be with for the moment, a special and very complete dossier about werewolves.

DeMachina
1st Jul 2003, 12:08 AM
The plane at the end of the movie sure doesn't look like a civilian plane to me. It even has some sort of camo pattern painted on.

As for not having better weapon, there are a few molotov cocktail trown at the beginning of the movie.

The ending didn't bother me that much. You knew that the zombie would eventually die and it wouldn't make sense if they were the only survivor. It's not like if these zombie were hard to kill ...
Although I did expect them to be blow up by the plane at first.

Lt.Col.BoyHitsCar
1st Jul 2003, 02:10 AM
for me i kinda took it as the insane/sane soldier was ranting about, england as an individual being quarantined and the false radio reports being fed to stop or more likely slow mass exodus. why run to another country when the rest of the world is now being infected as well. other than that they kinda explain that the UK was not prepared in any other respect than it was small town rioting. i mean if you want to shut a country off, the surrounding countries once they knew what was going on would/could comply with a media blackout... the false radio reports kinda goes in line with the 'military' group sending the message that they have the cure for 'rage'.

as far as the car, yes i agreed but i was more in the idea of getting a car with the best gas milage... a mini cooper perhaps.

i smiled when i realized the reason for UK when i first read about this movie. why not the UK, its an island and guns are far more scarce.

the plane leaving the contrails confused me a bit, first i thought it was military like a b-52 type because of the rather large contrails. then i thought it was commercial from other countries, but if a virus of that proportion broke out i'm sure travel would be limited if not stopped completely. but wasnt manchester city destroyed? couldnt it of been bombing runs accross all of UK, just not at manchester that particular flight.

the ending didnt bother my in so much as they were so far away from anything that it made any infected persons attempt to get there that much harder. it did bother me in the matter of jim taking a gut shot and somehow a chemist knew how to handle it perfectly.

i did like the movie though, reminded me of omega man... and yes I am legend... not here to start a comparison, just stating that the chick even reminded me of the 'fighter' lisa in omega man. same with the shopping scene.

the first 15 minutes of the movie put me in awe, i loved the empty city experience.

my last point was, christ i had to have 30 teenagers around me in the theater... i've never seen or heard such homophobia caused by 5 seconds of seeing a grown man naked and not in a porn... even in the 3 second clip of him showering, i wanted to yell out 'if you cant f*cking handle it stop looking at it, his crotch isnt the only thing on the screen.'

im out!

MadWoffen
1st Jul 2003, 05:46 AM
A mini cooper for best gas milage ? :lol:

You stinky fugly American and your damn gas sucking cars, you lost the reality of gas consumption there. :p

In Europe, cars with best milages are the diesel ones, IIRC best performance being achieved by French and German cars. The Renault of my gf uses 5 liters of diesel to do 100 km @ a range speed of 110-130 kmph. She makes quite easely 1000 km with one tank.

Unless you're talking about the last diesel Mini-Cooper (altough I don't know his consumption) but that model wasn't out during the movie.

GNAT
1st Jul 2003, 07:15 AM
The theatre I was in was a great theatre with a lousey crowd. It was packed, people were doing the homophobic cringe at the beginning as well. The thing that pissed me off was the people yelling back "helloooooo".. It was pathetic. They also cringed and let out yells when she kissed the guy. The majority(like 85%+) of the cowd in the movie were African American and it seemed they did not like the inter-racial kiss.

MadWoffen
1st Jul 2003, 11:20 AM
That sux.

We have a certain humorous mood at the festival but a good kind of one. When there is a naked woman on the screen, there is usually ONE lone voice in the dark shouting: "Yesssss !" and that's all apart the rest of the crowd smiling at it.

On 28 Days, it was a lone girl who shouted "Yessss!" at the naked hero and the crowd laughed.

Lt.Col.BoyHitsCar
1st Jul 2003, 05:28 PM
lol, the funny thing about the diesel vs regular/unleaded is that my buddy and i both made the comment that it was a good thing they were driving diesel and how that woulda sucked while he was siphoning the fuel. my family used to drive a diesel vw a long time ago, as well as having a diesel pickup during the 80;s.

i had completely forgotten that they kissed, it didnt really enter into my mind as being of any importance.

just a question of yalls feelings about the military group.do yall think that the entire military group was pretty much insane at the point that jim and the girls meet them? it seemed to me as though they had lost it, the general seemed the most sane but i really think he was more trying to prevent his group from falling apart completely. the other guys looked to be losing grip, 'germs'(i think was his name) seemed to have lost touch with reality, the darker skinned one seemed to be out of it as well(either that or he just liked shaving his head rather oddly. the big one seemed to be just psycho, looking for the thrill of destruction. the crazy one that faces the firing squad seemed crazy even though i think that his craziness was closest to the 'real' truth in my view. talking about the UK being quarantined from the world while everyone else is watching the simpsons... :) i mean if you look at where they lead them to shot jim and the soldier, there were others led there to be put to death and none of them were women. basically the group was crazy and wanted women, that was it.

what was yalls take on the situation?

GNAT
1st Jul 2003, 08:47 PM
I think the boss/leader of the group was an insane man with very sane means.. He used this as a way to have supreme power over his men, and basically anyone that came there. Sorta like Marlon Brando in Apocolypse Now. He enjoyed it. He was more than likely misleading his men to believe that they really were part of what was going to save the world from this virus. Of course the one guy that was against many of the things the group was doing was also the one that knew they were alone there, quarantined. I'm not sure the other men really knew. There are plenty of people and groups that would love to go into martial law type situation, and would really thrive off of it. These guys were definately like that.