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12th Nov 1999, 09:48 AM
Duke is going to be the greatest game ever created, much much much better than Unreal. I just hope they start putting out some movie clips, more screenshots, etc... I want to know what Duke is going to look like now, although I have a pretty good idea. Any thoughts on how bad *** the game is going to be? I hope we don't need a high end peformance mega-machine to play it. PeAcE



12th Nov 1999, 07:20 PM
My Impression of DNF is that it will be a game that finally uses the Unreal Editor to its full potential.From what I've seen the design team is making a good effort to realize real world enviroments and textures.I think real world enviroments are going to be the next big thing. I know I'm sick of cartoonie looking sci-fi crap being rammed down my throat. HERES TO REALITY!

12th Nov 1999, 08:16 PM
Reality? You want reality in a game?
The Rock says you can take that pathetic excuse for your reality and stick it up your candy-*** ! Who in their right mind wants REality in their GAMES? The Rock plays games to take a brake from REALITY.
Not Take a break from GAmes and Enjoy REALITY. That is the biggist pile of monkey-crap The Rock has ever heard! And let me guess you LOVED The MATRIX.
IS that REALITY? In your Dreams PAl.

The Rock will show you reality its called
The Rock Bottem. And thats the feeling you will have when I stick a redeemer up your candy-*** .

Reality. HAH!

The Rock is without a shadow of a doubt the most elecrtifying poster in PlanetUnreal Entertainment in the world today.

12th Nov 1999, 10:13 PM
Very Humerous editorial.I can appreciate your need for escapism in games, I'm just saying that even fantasy-sci-fi style games could use some texture enhancement. When I'm playing a game I want to feel like I'm there, I don't want to see plunky hand painted textures and chunky wire framed goons.Lets take it to the next level! The Unreal editor is fully capable of producing very convincing realities (When I say realities I mean any reality but with more convincing design!).I just wish designers would spend more time on detail and less time on multi-colored lighting and locations with no depth.I did like the MATRIX but that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

[This message has been edited by Bishop (edited 11-12-1999).]

13th Nov 1999, 12:37 PM
Good points Bishop. I know exactly what you mean, I hope DNF has mucho reality. Things I look for in a game are number of levels and reality. I also want to play a game that I actually get into. DNF is just going to be that type of game for me. I just hope the next generation engines will be able to support real-time texturing, that is taken from real photographs and such.

Oh yeah, Rock. Get a grip, you're not him and you sound like a moron when nobody's being rude. So just cut the crap. I know this is going to bring me some crap from you but I don't care... and you're spelling electrifying wrong, the T comes before the R.



[This message has been edited by Jenkins (edited 11-13-1999).]

13th Nov 1999, 08:52 PM
Any game featuring strippers ought to be one cut above the rest, surely. /~unreal/ubb/html/biggrin.gif

Shake it, baby!

13th Nov 1999, 09:36 PM
I wonder if they are going to go all the way with the strippers in this one. Rather than that stuff covering they're nipples in the first one. The next version of them should be better, hehe, real-time textures *wink* *wink*



14th Nov 1999, 01:48 PM
hey did you know that all the strippers in the game are motion captured? they brought some real strippers and made em dance so what you see will look VERY real /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

and im not sure about full frontal nudity, they are probably gonna go with pg-13 as a rating....they need to sell games and the majority who buy it will be teens anyways.

14th Nov 1999, 02:15 PM
Oh yeah, I remember that point now. I'm sure more teens would buy the game if there was full frontal nudity /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif I doubt that will make the game kick more *** . I just can't wait, I hope it's everything I'm expecting.


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20th Dec 1999, 02:51 PM
Have you seen the pics from DNF using the U/UT engine?
BTW they look cool!

If noone care what will happen?

20th Dec 1999, 11:19 PM
Yes, I've seen the pictures. very nice, can't wait for the game to come out. Editing will be a dream.


Wolf Blackstar
1st Jan 2000, 03:47 AM
The latest I heard was that they were using the Unreal technology so that players could attach objects to change their faces, i.e. sunglasses, like classic Duke style or Terminator shades. (I think its in PC Gamer December 99 issue)

I'm interested in seeing how DNF handles CTF. I know it's not something that comes to mind when you think of Duke, but its very popular and addictive.

I hope they include a large selection of player models too(i.e. Dr. Proton, some of the monsters, etc.

-Wolf Blackstar

"A chainsaw! find some meat!"

1st Jan 2000, 05:42 PM
all this bickering /~unreal/ubb/html/smile.gif

2nd Jan 2000, 05:45 PM
DNF will rock, thats for sure.

Lets face it, 3D Realms haven't failed us yet. Apogee have failed us on many occassions, but thats different........isn't it?.......yeah it is.

Mike / Combat-Ant
Inferno Interactive

15th Mar 2004, 03:07 PM
This game will or will not be good.

Or not.

15th Mar 2004, 04:38 PM
seems to be another MO-MO-MO-MONSTERBUMP !

17th Mar 2004, 02:05 AM
DNF = Did Not Finish :p

17th Mar 2004, 02:17 AM
Does the fact that people were saying this nigh on four and a half years ago make anyone laugh and weep at the same time?

George Broussard will never get another job after DNF releases - or flames out at last.

17th Mar 2004, 04:45 AM
yeah,. DNF is teh biggest joke ever...

oh how i loved Duke3D,...and according all the videos from e3,. they probably had it done to 80% twice and then changed the engine...

georges parents must be rich,.

17th Mar 2004, 12:43 PM
here are the latest statements of george broussard:
(he posted it this monday in the DNF forums)

>>1. How great will the AI, both single-player and bots be when DNF is finally released?

Everyone overhypes AI, ya know? All we want to do is provide bad guys that are interesting to fight, and that's don't do dumb things (run into walls, or other glaring errors). In this day and age, flocking, squad behavior and the rest, are all pretty common place.

>>2. How much effort will there be on beta-testing to ensure as bug-free a release as possible?

A lot. Duke 3D and Shadow Warrior (and Max Payne) all shipped very solidly and only needed one patch. DNF is more complex and in this day and age of games, more than one patch may be necessary, but we want to ship the game in a very stable state. In fact, we reguarly do things like let the game run over night, or for days at a time, to test for memory leaks and things like that.

But again, everyone says this, so...

>>3. One area often neglected in games is the sound technology. Will DNF's sound allow a host of decent sound effects (unlike say UT2003's horrible use of stereo)

We support full 5.1 surround sound. Getting THX or Dolby certified is something we want to do.

>>and maybe even propagation levels differing for different materials, like other games claim they will have?

I think this is another over hyped feature, but it's relatively easy to do and we may do that as a polishing touch. We already have a material set per surface in the game and it's not too difficult to bounce sounds around.

I think most games today sound great. Call of Duty is a great example. The playing field is really pretty level on things like sound and even rendering technology today. It's all a matter of what you do with it, and the quality of your game assets.


>>1.On a scale of 1 to 10, how much modding ease will we see? 1 being GTA3 (having to replace game files to get the mods to work, mods many times crashing games) 10 being Half-Life (in-menu mod selection, wide variety of stuff you can do, mods encouraged and retailed by Valve, Sven Co-op).

It's the Unreal engine, so overall I suppose expect similar experiences with modding any other Unreal game.

>>2.What resolutions will be supported? How wide can the graphics options be changed from crappy to awesome?

All resolutions, but I doubt you will be playing in 1600x1200. The graphics are pretty high end and machines don't exist yet to run at those resolutions at playable framerates. You will be able to turn graphics features on/off in the menus and trade framerate for visual quality.

>>3.Do you have many pre-done effects for doing levels? i.e. fountains and etc. (Half-Life did this with beams and glows and particle-glowy things)

We've actually been working in and finalizing lots of particle and effects systems lately. Anything from guns or wall and blood effects, to toilets. Typically, at this point, we try to finalize every asset that goes into the game now so it's not something to do, later.

>>4.This one has probably already been done sort of and it's sort of content related so don't answer it if you don't feel like it, but how much humor oriented will the game be? Darkish with sporadic humor, i.e. MP2 and Splinter Cell?

We won't really be sure until later.

>>5.How far will you go with multiplayer modes? Basic DM, CTF, etc., or a range similar to UT2K4? (Not what modes there will be, but how creative you want to get with them)

UT2K4 took a full team a year and a half to develop. I think it's fair and safe to say that we won't go as far as they did in multiplayer. We just don't have the time or team size to do that.


>>1. Wil Physics in DNF be an Important Factor in creating an Interactive World?

Yes. Physics and interactivity are very important to us. But every game is doing physics today, so I suspect their wow factor will have diminished by the time we ship.

>>2. Will DNF Gameplay Feel different from current FPS games, I mean What is the FEEL while Playing DNF?

Won't know until we're done.


>>Does this mean the game recognizes wood from metal and will play different impact sounds depending what the bullets hit?

Yes, of course. Don't most games do this, these days?

>>1) You always say you're not UT tech anymore. Does this apply to the netcode? How is that? Will we have to lead targets like crazy like in Halo? I know shooting ahead and lag are unavoidable over the net but I was just wondering if we can expect solid connection, stable servers...?

The netcode is still all Unreal.

>>2) I remember at some points in 2001, you said "IF DNF ships...". Is there still a chance you won't release the game or are you confident you will definately ship it one day?

I think those "if" comments were jokes I've never once doubted we would ship. Only a matter of time.

>>3) Many people were dissapointed with Halo PC or more recently with Deus Ex 2. Bad controls, interface... there's always something someone won't like. Will DNF be equally polished everywhere or can the rough edges and small details wait for a patch / expansion pack?

PC Halo was great. I don't know what people expect. In the end, all we can do it try our best, then patch like mad if we have to, to smooth things out. But I think after all this time we will strive very hard to make it as polished as smooth as possible. But again, everyone says that, right? These are fairly general questions with little room to answer

>>4) I'm sure the modding community is eager to get its hands on Duke's Enormous Tool. How is 3DR about that? Will the game accept mods easily?

Same as any other Unreal game I suppose.

>>Will you ship the tools and let people build on their own, or will there be more active support of the community for addons?

Just like Duke 3D we will ship the tools on the CD. I believe we were the first people to do that with a major FPS. We will clearly try to support the game as much as possible after release. We want people modding it and having fun with the tools.

>>5) Does the ragdoll Octabrain still own everything?

No, I'm bored of it now

>>6) Does the water still do "stuff"?

Yes, it does quite a lot of stuff. But most games today have great looking water, so ...

>>7) Finally, is Duke in good shape and eager to kick ass once again?

Yes he is. He reminds us every time he looks in the mirror.


>>1. You have said that DNF Hype will begin 6 monthes prior to the release date.
so What is the best choice for you to start the Hype with

No idea what we'll do yet.

>>Beleive me GB, MaxPayne2 Hype was really a MESS !

Rockstar handled all that. What did you think was wrong with it?

>>2. Will there be an option in the Graphics Menu were you can select Not only very High Details but also INSANE Details?

The game will default to max details. That's why our recommended specs are so high. Really, with what we're doing, there is max detail, and as you drop things out you lose a lot of visual quality, so I kind of see it as all or nothing.

>>3. What was the reactions of the new Hired developers when they saw DNF in action? Amazed huh ?

I never speak for other people. I suspect they thought we would be farther along than we were at the time. But things are going very well now.

>>4. Is it safe to say that DNF will be released before 2006?

"When it's done". We're past any estimates or guesses, no matter how safe they may be.

DNF will be the best game ever :-)

17th Mar 2004, 02:00 PM
Lol, so it will finally come out :D . Nice to hear that it will be based on the Unreal engine.

17th Mar 2004, 07:23 PM
hehe,. wow.

just wait another 6 months and they'll decide to make a new engine..

17th Mar 2004, 08:27 PM
I gave up on Duke Nukem Forever a long time ago. Hell, I was like 11 when I first heard about it. I'm a very different person to back then. I've gone through puberty, lost my virginity, reached adulthood etc... George Broussard and probably his children will have died of old age by the time it hits the shelves.

20th Mar 2004, 12:16 PM
Me thinks some people should make a nuke dukem mod for Ut 2004 :)

29th Mar 2004, 12:49 PM
It will be ready when its ready. By that time we won't be ready to buy it. I was a huge DN fan but not being able to put out a game in a timely manner SUX. Might as well call it Duke Nukem Jr. Forever since Dukes probably old and retired by now. LOL

29th Mar 2004, 05:44 PM
I still agree with those posts made in '99, DNF is gonna rock!

30th Mar 2004, 06:40 PM
You do realize that was 5 years ago, right? I think DNF is going to suffer Daikatana syndrome. Also, it's due out December 1, 2005 :p

30th Mar 2004, 07:57 PM
You do realize that was 5 years ago, right? I think DNF is going to suffer Daikatana syndrome. Also, it's due out December 1, 2005 :p

Yup, but it's still gonna own. :)

30th Mar 2004, 08:35 PM
december 1, 2005 = roughly 6 years from the announcement onf DNF.

The only game I know of that has been in development this long is Daikatana. Well no even that wasn't in development this long.


30th Mar 2004, 09:58 PM
I don't think there's ever been a game in development as long as DNF is going to be...

22nd Apr 2004, 07:39 AM
wtf is taking the so long?

just bring out the ****ing game and stop using an other ****ing engine all the time!

It makes me really pissed of sometimes :@ >:-(

18th May 2004, 03:48 PM
My Impression of DNF is that it will be a game that finally uses the Unreal Editor to its full potential.From what I've seen the design team is making a good effort to realize real world enviroments and textures.



19th May 2004, 05:57 AM


You haven't seen the pictures from the quake2 engine have you? :lol:
Anyway there are no released pics that can represent the game today. I'm sure it wil be a good looking game when/if it is released ;)

9th Jun 2004, 10:09 AM
all gamers should get together and NOT boycott the game by NOT buying it when it finally comes out.
let 3DRealms rot in hell for letting us wait so long.

prolly everyone's quit in that company anyway...it's just george broussard with 10 fake forum logins posting stuff in his forums and enjoying to mess with us !=)

12th Jun 2004, 09:49 AM
Forever, forever, ever, forever, ever?
Forever never seems that long until you've said DNF.