Armpatches

[Scythe]

Would it be possible to allow clans to design armpatch textures to put on the playermoddel So we can easier Identify each other, and it looks cool too!

[ThunderChunky]

As far as I know, there isn't an easy way to do this other than to assign a seperate texture to the armpatch, and that would require adding a seperate mesh as the current faces do not align in a square pattern. And adding more mesh to the model means reanimation, which is time.

So, probably not.

[Scythe]

you could do it just like chaning to a balaclava, but change the arm texture/ that wouldnt be extremely complicated would it?
(I know I could be totally off knowing nothing about modding)
also they dont have to be square

[Nny the devourer]

i hear ya......not actaully adding a patch itself, but rather a new skin. A skin with the same camo texture as ussual but a patch added in it somewhere or custom graphic---there is a problem with this i do know though. Same problem you get running custom models or skins on regular UT; the server your playing on has to have the skin package. SO basically your asking all the public servers to have your skins saved---and with that you would also get people out of your clan wearing your patch textures just as easily as you have guys that can add BS clan tags to their name----and it owuld probably piss you off worse

[Scythe]

Yeah It was just a thought.

[McMuffin]

An attachment?

[Tiffy]

Course this isn't standard military procedure.

IRL you remove ALL unit identifing marks. Thats why units that do have a unit patch worn on there combats have them held inplace with Velcro, so they can be easily removed when you move into the field, or go on operations.

The most 'adornment' I've ever had on my combats when on operations, was in Bosnia with the UN where I had my Rank badge, and a little Union Jack flag on my left shoulder. By little, I'm talking about 2cm x 1cm, and I even managed to tone it down a bit with some Cam Cream to take the 'flash' off of it.

The British Army went through a phase of also having your name tag on your left brest, but that didn't really transfer to combats too well.

Flashes and unit patches provide intelligence to the enemy needlessly, so aren't worn and thus are unrealistic in INF, no matter how nice they'd be :p

[Nny the devourer]

well if your british that doesn't neccisarily describe how other naitons identify themselves. Also as far as i know you HAVE to have an indentifying uniform in some way in order to be considered a miliray prisoner of war if captured, in otherwards something to designate your nation be it a flag arm patch or what not, even if its just a u.s military over a pocket. Also isn't there always some sort of display of rank present no mater how subtle...i'm not in the military nor have i been, however as much as i understand having high rank identifyable is a sign that says shoot me, but there also had to be some practical means of identification......maybee someone else wants to help with this (although wether its a good idea or not i don't think is all that important since it seems rather imprqactical to impliment)

[Tiffy]

I'll just shut up then as obviously 20yrs service in HM Forces Qualifies me to say nothing :rolleyes:

[Gholam]

We wear all kinds of identifying junk on aleph (parade) uniforms (some colorful beret with branch symbol, a unit tag on left shoulder, all kinds of pins signifying all kinds of stuff, name tags, etc), but in the field, it's bet (work) uniform, which is plain olive drab, no identifying marks except rank (shoulder ranks for officers and NCOs, sleeve stripes for mandatory service soldiers) - no berets, no pins, no tags, no nothing, except for a little brown "TZAHAL (Tzva Hagana le-Yisrael - Israel Defence Forces) sewn above left shirt pocket and on left side of the cap.

[Nny the devourer]

tiffy i don't see as to why your getting upset about my post--i simply suggested that your knowledge of your military doesn't neccisarily represent my nations, nor maybee others. Also you said that you have no identifying marks (although you also mentioned union jack) I was just clarifying that i thought al uniforms in some way indentified themselves in some way and in at least rank......which is apperently tru with gholam. And in the case of say a union jack what the fellow who started the post was talking about is clans, which for al intense purposes is your nation in inf. Or perhaps just a symbol like where rank would be displayed---i still don't think it's practical in game but wasn't saying anything about you as far as the post

[Gholam]

Nny, the equivalent of "IDF" badge on an Inf player model would be about 2x4 pixels in size, completely impossible to see. Absolutely zero point to bother to code something that will never be used.

[Nny the devourer]

hehe gholam------hehe if you go three err actaully more posts up, i said it wasn't a practical game implement--i was just responding because tiff seemed to take offense.

[Tiffy]

Originally posted by Nny the devourer
hehe gholam------hehe if you go three err actaully more posts up, i said it wasn't a practical game implement--i was just responding because tiff seemed to take offense.
I read absolutly nothing into your comments what so ever, but you obviously feel I should have. My comment was sacastic in nature as with the length of service I have I am VERY familiar with what most western and all ex-Sov Block nations wear, both dress and combat uniforms.

I also KNOW for a fact that the US when deployed on operations have NO unit identifying patches on there uniforms. All nations have rank badges on there uniforms and some also have name badges. Badges DO NOT make a uniform, and the international rules of warfare as encapsulated in serveral conventions and treaties only state that a ligitamate combatant MUST fight in a uniform. That uniform may just be that they all wear purple pimp hats, but its a uniform and the man is a legitimate combatant and has all the protection under such things as the Geneva convention etc. As a point of fact when prisoners escaped during WW2 it was ALWAYS there uniform that was made into civie clothes, just so the prisioner could try and argue to be treated as a combatant if caught and not as a spy, with all that that entails.

What I was trying to do was EDUCATE you as to how things are in the military, as you said you know nothing about the military and judging from your posts will not be old enough to join for some time, and I happen to know alot. But also as I said if you feel that 20yrs of service in HM Forces qualifies me to not know anything about your Army, then as I said I'll shutup at leave you to continue inyour ignorance.

Your choice ;)

["Sp!ke"]

Hasnt this been discussed, re-discussed and discussed several times?

[McMuffin]

That uniform may just be that they all wear purple pimp hats
muahahahaha!

[A_Rimmerlister]

:eek: Mommy ! ... Hellup! ... :D
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What about medics ?

As soon as 'bandaging' is in Inf it would be nice if you could show that you're carrying enough 'bandages' to help others ...

[Tiffy]

ROFLMAO

Nice one McMuffin :D

[RAZZ]

roflol That is just so wrong :D

[Keganator]

scary...

[Midwinter]

So that's the new INF_Boonie for 2.87, eh? I like it, but it doesn't seem too practical for camouflaging :D. Anyways, back to the topic, my brother was in Bosnia, too, and i am pretty sure they didn't wear distinctive badges, etc... that could be easily seen. I'll check the photos when i arrive home.

[Wolf Being]

Another thing to consider purely on the gameplay level is that if the player can edit the skins to include badges, you could make full bright skins or badges for the enemies that would stick out in the dark a lot more.

[McMuffin]

you could make full bright skins or badges for the enemies that would stick out in the dark a lot more.

Not really... I think he's suggesting it would be uploaded to the server beforehand (a graphic of that size would be about 5-10 kb) so everyone would see it. Also I assume he only means for a person to change their own uniform, no one else's.

But none of this matters since insignia are removed in combat...

[Scythe]

I think that the USA has armpatches covered by a velcro flap.

[Nny the devourer]

ya know i think tiffy is a good name for ya tiffy. Since somene in a tiff is a person with a stick up their well, hehe you know what.

sheeesh, personal insult and flameage all in one post..........for someone who brings up age; why is it you start a pissing contest like a school kid? I guess you can be old and still imature...what do ya know the worse of both worlds.

[Tiffy]

Welcome to my ignore list, troll. :p

[Nny the devourer]

mature,
obviously the sign of an intelligent and creative mind

and im very much sure a military man hehe

[St0rmcaller]

Originally posted by Scythe
I think that the USA has armpatches covered by a velcro flap.

Nope! :) Not fore us jarheads anyways.

Also, about Bosnia. Well, frankly, that little big ol' **** up does not count. I rolled in with the cammies I was wearing, chevrons and all. God damn "Police actions".

[St0rmcaller]

Originally posted by Nny the devourer
...and im very much sure a military man hehe

I missed this one. So tell me, do you doubt him? Are you trying to imply he is not what he says he is? Pray, do tell.

[BlAcK_PlAgUe22]

Ahh... another person to add to the ignore list.

[Tiffy]

Storm, the only reason the British Army didn't have patches every where in Bosnia is we don't put them on our combats anyway.

It always used to make me laugh when someone from outside my unit would come up and talk to me. They'd start by looking at my shoulder to see if I was an Orifice, then they'd look at my Right wrist to see if I was a Warrent Officer (Sgt Major), then my right sleve to see if I was an NCO then they'd look alittle confuser until they noticed my rank badge on my chest. There are so many different places that rank badges can be worn in the British Army :p


Anyway Storm, your not a real Soldier so I'll just ignore what your saying because I, Jonny schoolkid, knows better than you :D

[Cholo Grande]

If you really like special uniforms you can just make your own skins and find a server to host them. MUF had a Nazis vs MUFs thing for a while.

[St0rmcaller]

Originally posted by Tiffy
Anyway Storm, your not a real Soldier...

I'll take that as a bloody compliment, thank you very much. :D

[Nny the devourer]

storm read the post from top to bottom then ask me the question again

[FiringAimlessly]

Originally posted by Cholo Grande
MUF had a Nazis vs MUFs thing for a while.
- Is that skin still available for download?

Oh, and... I dare any server admin to set up a match on SicilyNight with GermanFlecktarn against TEAMKILLER! :p