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turnip
16th Jan 2002, 02:46 AM
ctf isnt ra

sounds like the ut2 killer

Tetris L
16th Jan 2002, 04:47 AM
ever played Tribes?

Syri
16th Jan 2002, 05:28 AM
i think that spawning with all weapons would be an option, with the traditional pick up still an option

TossMonkey
16th Jan 2002, 06:32 AM
This is a pretty sad post.

Although I'm not all for weapon spawns, you could elaborate on your topic a little more.

As for CTF not being RA, have you ever played TFC? It's got a similar system to UT2 with weapon arrangements (armour and ammo all in one place, not messily thrown about the place). TFC is one of the finest games ever, and the weapon arrangement doesn't hinder the gameplay.

quaker
16th Jan 2002, 08:05 AM
at least it will allow for faster gameplay. and as we ALL know, faster gplay=better game.
example:
Q3-FAST
UT-SLOW...and no the turbo mode does not count :con:

hal
16th Jan 2002, 08:23 AM
I remember having read that you will respawn with all but the most powerful weapons, and with limited ammo.

NeoNite
16th Jan 2002, 09:33 AM
eehh yeah the turbo counts :con: it very well feckin' counts it's a part of the game mo.. classic, hardcore and turbo.. geez...
and you can even adjust the gamespeed and air control slider.. where are they in q3 hm??? HM?? nowhere! that's right!!!
Therer may be lots of blood and gibs in q3, and the action is there, BUT the player speed is PATHETIC!!!!

:) venting venting... I'm an experienced ut AND q3 player.. ut is so sweet compared to q.. uake :)

haa much better :D

:o for the record: Ut instagib is way faster than q3 instagib.
:)

NeoNite
16th Jan 2002, 09:35 AM
yeah turbo doesn't count your right...

although I always play the game on turbo though :con:... strange...

Swedix
16th Jan 2002, 10:51 AM
Hopefully with this we might be spared of spawnkilling.
Also as mentioned, the games will be faster.

Melt
16th Jan 2002, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by N3oN1t3|Buf
Therer may be lots of blood and gibs in q3, and the action is there, BUT the player speed is PATHETIC!!!!

:) venting venting... I'm an experienced ut AND q3 player.. ut is so sweet compared to q.. uake :)

haa much better :D

:o for the record: Ut instagib is way faster than q3 instagib.
:)

Someone here never learned to strafe jump, it is about 6 times faster than any running/dodging in UT.
UT is the one with the pathetic player speed.

<<S/E>>XXXX
16th Jan 2002, 11:51 PM
Someone here never learned to strafe jump, it is about 6 times faster than any running/dodging in UT.
UT is the one with the pathetic player speed. [/B][/QUOTE]
Go play quake ....:D this is unreal forums the enemy of quake so don't scream about it too much ;)

quaker
17th Jan 2002, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by N3oN1t3|Buf
...you can even adjust the gamespeed and air control slider.. where are they in q3 hm??? HM?? nowhere! that's right!!!
Therer may be lots of blood and gibs in q3, and the action is there, BUT the player speed is PATHETIC!!!!

actually, you can alter the speed in q3...although pure server has to be disabled which allows for all kinds of crap :(

anyway, getting back on topic... the main complaint that ppl had with the machinegun in q3 always comes back to quake :P was that it gave newly-spawned players too much power. imo, its gonna suck to have the guy you just spent a min or two hunting down, spawn next to you with a shotg.. i mean flakcannon.

alright, turbo counts..bastards!!

NeoNite
17th Jan 2002, 06:31 AM
/g_speed 800
/g_gravity 1200

Kinda rocks if you're not playing on space levels ;)

hell yeah I can strafe jump I know what you mean.. still it looks kinda .. ridiculous :p

besides ut has a translocator?? hello ;)? combine this with dodging and mastering that little thing, and you're way faster :)
Me thinks most of you play ut on classic. Me sighs.

noobs ;)

six times faster??? :lol: :lol: yeah If you know what direction you're heading in maybe, since bloody q3 has no air control whatsoever! :D

ah .. different physics. Yeah this si teh ut fo! Get out of here :p

melt, do .. you .. knooooow.. how.. tooo.. doooodge?..:)?

quaker
17th Jan 2002, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by N3oN1t3|Buf
[BYeah this si teh ut fo! Get out of here :p [/B]
whaat? a man cant enjoy both games!?:B

NeoNite
17th Jan 2002, 09:04 AM
sure but this si teh ut fo ;)

ah to hell with it...in the end, noone can change your mind about your favourite (?) game I guess...

Dai
17th Jan 2002, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by N3oN1t3|Buf
Therer may be lots of blood and gibs in q3, and the action is there, BUT the player speed is PATHETIC!!!!


and you're an experienced Q3 player you say? :o :p :rolleyes:

NeoNite
17th Jan 2002, 09:55 AM
yeah played the test back in march, may, june, august, december '99. Bought the game that month; Played it from february 2000. Even logged the damn games. log files;. up to a couple of thousand games but that's before I stumbled upon ut.. now I've got up 5700 ut games....in less than a year :)

And yeah the one thing I really missed out on in q3, maybe it's just me, is player speed. I didn't care at first, cause I never had the chance to experience how great ut can be... maybe that's just melt and quaker (and maybe yours too, eternal whiner) problem. THey're simply stuck in their little q3 universe and haven't got any real ut experience :)

Oh yeah and stick your bloody rolleyes where the sun don't shine ;)

I guess you really don't like unreal eh dai :o?

Grave
17th Jan 2002, 01:39 PM
1. q3 is slow. period. in ut players kill each other WAY faster on default settings. and yes, you can pump up turbo AND set the gamespeed to 200% (good luck :D). (turbo means faster movement, gamespeed speeds up everything including firing)

2. all weapons is GOOD. period2 :D
no weapon camping (weapon camping=lame)

3. there's an allweapon/armor project for UT game modes in development (designed over a year ago, no coders :D), pray and hope it will get finished some day ;)
(aka "pure skilz project")

Dai
17th Jan 2002, 05:21 PM
in ut players kill each other WAY faster on default settings

that's because of the spam :rolleyes:

Anybody who says that Q3 is slow, obviously haven't played it alot. Try jumping more :B

Grave
17th Jan 2002, 05:26 PM
ut is faster action :D
in fact it was stated by the top q3 players when they saw ut competition on world cyber games ;)
(and no i dont remember where i read that, try search :D)

NeoNite
17th Jan 2002, 05:59 PM
Oh it's the rolleyes fanboy...
Imho ut weapons can be really brutal.. I mean say you turn around a corner and someone's awaiting your arrival with a flak cannon ;) or the shock.. arg :) hey but I'm not complaining.
I guess if you're used to playing quake3, Ut takes a while to get used to and once you're settled, you'll realise the things I've said will start making sense ;)

Grave
18th Jan 2002, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by N3oN1t3|Buf
THey're simply stuck in their little q3 universe and haven't got any real ut experience :)

or better yet "unreal ut experience" :D

NeoNite
18th Jan 2002, 08:32 AM
even better: UNREAL FOREVER ;) :)

baby nukem :D si teh winnah :D

hotwaffle
18th Jan 2002, 09:40 AM
please, not the old q3 vs. UT debate again. spare us.

UnrealGrrl
18th Jan 2002, 12:00 PM
im glad this makes sense to someone...

:rolleyes:

pine
18th Jan 2002, 12:37 PM
Unreal Turmanent sih teh l33t becase al teh doods what play UT is 133t and quake plahyers si teh fagets!!!11

need some justification......;)

Swedix
18th Jan 2002, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by hotwaffle
please, not the old q3 vs. UT debate again. spare us.
I have to agree. There has been enough of those kind of threads.
We are here to talk about UnrealTournament 2. It's not wrong to compare games, but hey !!!, respect other peoples opinion.
To start flaming each other because of the game you prefer only makes interesting threads totaly useless.
If you only want to spam so keep doing that in OT, not here please.

el Gato
18th Jan 2002, 02:00 PM
All I know is that UT2 is already 'rockin' mah nutz', and it's still a ways away till release. :)

All weapon spawning, if ammo is limited and the big guns are out of the picture, sounds good to me. Lets you get right into the thick of it.

8-4-7-2
18th Jan 2002, 02:14 PM
Don't feed the trolls! People like quaker just register here to cause trouble. Just ignore them.

As for all weapons spawns. T2 showed it's possible on large maps. However I'm sceptic it's that good in 1on1 on small maps for example.
There should be both in the game

NeoNite
18th Jan 2002, 02:15 PM
aawwhh I couldn't help myself I just felt like having some fun with those quake fanboys sorry sorry sorry

I'm also kinda fed up with it :)
Swedix.. where's your sense of humour?

[RSU]Porn_Star|BuF
19th Jan 2002, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by N3oN1t3|Buf
Swedix.. where's your sense of humour?

Swedish peeps dont have a sence of humour :D

/me changes this threads current topic from Q3vs.UT, to Norway vs. sweden ;)

Finsternis
19th Jan 2002, 07:58 AM
I think we still don't know with how much ammo you actually spawn.

In RA you spawn with full ammo.

All weapons won't get you far if you only have 5 shots until your ammo is depleted.

Melt
19th Jan 2002, 03:27 PM
Neonite FYI: I have been playing UT since 1999? have any of you played in the EC? No I doubt it so don't just brand people newbies because they know more about a game than you.
I also have played Q3 alot, since around september last year when I started to get bored UT.

I am not an id or epic fanboy, just because someone contradicts your incorrect pov doesn't make them a flamer.

NeoNite
19th Jan 2002, 06:55 PM
hm yeah :) I've literally seen the bowels of both games, but hey... you've probably written a book about me right?
1999, Same here buddy :)

Bored of ut? How did that happen :)? Three years from now and I still won't be bored from playing ut, jackass :)

hal
19th Jan 2002, 11:45 PM
Well this has gotten ugly. Try to keep it on topic, mmkay?

Wowbagger
20th Jan 2002, 06:17 AM
Didnt one of the UT2 videos contain a quote saying that the ammo would be limited at respawn?


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NeoNite
20th Jan 2002, 09:00 AM
Notice the :) people? That means I wasn't trying to insult anyone :) I can't help it that some people are easily offended... :hmm:

All weapons spawn .. makes me think of that certain deathmatch mode in doom; it was more a strategic one. You spawned with all weapons and limited ammo: say the shotgun and eight bullets. And the rl and well.. four to ten rockets :)
It made you think first, and shoot later. Instead of raging like a madman and trying to hit anything, or spamming ;)
(which ended up in suicide, cause that rl was one meanie if you ask me)

Swedix
20th Jan 2002, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Wowbagger

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Hehe, why do I come to think of Bart Simpson ?

MĘST
21st Jan 2002, 03:16 AM
Both Q3 and UT are slow ... compared to Excessive Overkill that is.

I can't wait till Mr. Pants makes EO for either U2 or UT2. Which ever one has EO first I'll buy. :)

LordKhaine
21st Jan 2002, 07:35 AM
Q3A is faster than UT, strafe jumps will make you go a LOT faster than UT. Its easier to get frags in UT however, due to the more powerful weapons, and that Q3A's weapons has far less splash damage. UT is more rounded, everyone can play and enjoy it. Q3A on the other hand is hardcore, you must be fairly good, and play it a lot to see the depth it has. Needless to say, both are great games.

And just to add an important point, just cos a game is faster, doesnt mean its better. I can play UT at 1000% speed, and it will suck. The faster a game is, the more its based on ping, aim and reflexes, and the less its based on tactics and camping. What a game needs to do is get the right mix of the two. If you ask me Q3A was a little too fast and ping biased, and UT had too much camping and spamming. Hopefully UT2 will find a good mix of the two, the interviews I'd read so far have been encouraging.

NeoNite
21st Jan 2002, 09:59 AM
excessive overkill is a mod for both q3 and ut :con:

Ah screw it, nothing beats Larry on fast :D

MĘST
21st Jan 2002, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by N3oN1t3|Buf
excessive overkill is a mod for both q3 and ut :con:


I knew that...:con:

NeoNite
21st Jan 2002, 05:27 PM
So you agree with me that you're playing Ut and Q3 when playing that mod right :con:
? :con: :con:

MĘST
21st Jan 2002, 06:16 PM
Yes ... but it is a very different gametype. Its almost like comparing Infiltration DM to reg UT DM.

LordKhaine
22nd Jan 2002, 01:25 AM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/1999/19991215l.jpg

quaker
22nd Jan 2002, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by LordKhaine
just cos a game is faster, doesnt mean its better.

finally! took you guys long enough...:p